Jules72 The swing is because of HS2 and Lib Dems telling a few porkies.
Along_the_Wire Lib Dems telling a few porkies
Sounds unlike any politician I’ve heard of before…
What they been lying about?
Jules72 the problem here is that there are more racist thickets in this country than their are selfless intelligent people and it’s by some margin.
vinnyt77 HS2 and the high levels of house building were the big issues for the voters (don’t want their house prices dropping now, do we?). They lied and said they would oppose both, which is bollocks as the Lib Dems are completely aligned with the Tories on both issues
Of course its one rule for them and one for us, anyone still questioning that needs to come back down to earth.
Hursty that sample size isn’t anything to make big judgement calls on for starters. Almost 90% of people at risk have been jabbed, or is it higher? There are still going to be deaths from that group, but it’s a relatively small number compared to the number that have had both jabs.
I’d like to give that Hancock weasel a few jabs.
Along_the_Wire So in summary, every political party is now going to knowingly lie to get elected, and the electorate now have to choose whose lies to believe? Sounds legit.
There is no way HS2 isn’t happening too much work already underway and brown paper envelopes been handed out to stop it now
Old-Dutch Of course it’s happening, but Lib Dems campaigned heavily on doing all they can to stop it and the thickets believed them.
Mental really lol
Surely people have had enough of the Tories as well so there is an element of protest voting against them?
Hursty labour need to sort themselves out quickly, as it should have been an easy victory for them at the next polls, but instead they have self imploded into an embarrassment of a party.
vinnyt77
I tend to agree with your cynical opinion, vin. They aren’t all exactly the same ffs…
Hursty Double jabbed aren’t doing well against the delta variant it would appear
Take a narrow perspective, build a bigger claim on it. Very twitter stylee
Hope you’re more thorough with your Magic Beans analysis Hursty La
Mad_Cyril I merely quoted the BBC MC, its an interesting set of statistics is all I’m saying after the supposed claims of 95%+ efficacy.
Statistics are horrible, especially small samples, but I certainly wouldn’t expect these results.
Hursty Saw that too. Based on a third of those deaths (still a small number) being double jabbed, the vaccine is clearly not 90% effective against the Delta variant. More lies
Hursty probably does turn out to be 95% efficacy if 90% odd on average of the vulnerable age groups are jabbed. Let’s say the sample is 100k people, almost all old or vulnerable. Let’s say 90% were double jabbed.. that’s 90k… 10k not jabbed. 36 out 10k unvaccinated died (0.36%),and 24 out of 90% doubled jabbed died (0.027%).. that’s very high efficacy and protection
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fans-had-astrazeneca-vaccine-won-070131015.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr
Jules72 Well lets hope so as its just been confirmed the Delta cases are up 79% in a week.
“I see nothing in the data to suggest….”
Jules72 What Jules said