Whoosh Hannu. I thought you would have got that one FFS

bosstrabs This is the third time this has been covered in this thread - I can’t remember who did an excellent response to it, but basically there are two points. First one is that the number of reported deaths related to Delta aren’t statistically significant enough to make assumptions and the second one is that 94% of the over 50s and at risk groups have been jabbed, almost everyone, so most people who catch covid are likely to be from that group.

Homegrove there’s not much in the efficacy after your second dose and they both give you milder symptoms if you’re unlucky enough to get it.

AZ get a pass for not profiteering out of a global pandemic.

You can also look at the ease of distribution and storage i.e. temperatures that the vaccines need to be stored at, which in a global pandemic really makes the AZ vaccine far more accessible than Pfizer - considering this is affecting the world you have to ask overall which of the vaccines will have the bigger impact.

It’s great there are different vaccines out there but would be interested in Hannu’s case for why Pfizer is better.

The US and EU pandering to Big Pharma is also pretty sickening - in a lobbying and PR race, who do you think is winning? Too much self interest for my liking.

    The second jab was a lot easier than the first, thankfully.

    Shirley AZ isn’t being labelled a waste of time against the INDIAN variant of the CHINA virus, spead by cunts in UK?

      Hannu’s only had one jab.

      And he lives in Finland.

      Have to feel for the lad.

      Along_the_Wire

      Pfizer well and truly played the EU. Ursula makes a big statement about them only renewing contracts with reliable suppliers like Pfizer (a month or so after Pfizer told them they were going to be down on delivering them 10m vaccines) ergo they are done with AZ and when it comes to renewing the order with Pfizer, Pfizer hike the vaccine price to them by 60%.

      Masterclass.

        -si- It’s BoJo’s fault for not closing the border to India, the absolute cretin

          Hursty if you take a look at which countries are not on the red list right now, you can see another fck up brewing… why on earth isn’t Russia red with its grim situation there?!!

          Just become a mutant officially, have to sit in a tent for 15 mins to see if I turn green and start wrecking the joint

            Hursty Mother of all dead arms but not illness symptoms, will take that.

            Wife had exactly the same with Pfizer.

            “Health checks are ‘too much hassle’”

            Lol!

            alistair going to be a shit load of mildly ill people around the next few months