The General Covid19 Thread

zackster

Funky lol what? And that was the edited version too!

Funky

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0713/1234708-hospitality-government-officials-meeting-indoor-reopening/

bosstrabs

Funky Whats going on in the Republic only double jabbed going to be aloud in pubs and restaurants.

I don’t know, Funky, but it sounds like only double jabbed people are going to be allowed in pubs and restaurants.

Hursty

How is the vaccine rollout in Ireland going?

Millsy

Hursty they have a slightly different approach to vaccination where they make Brigid’s crosses with rushes before traditional dancing and pipe music and a large parade and a feast with 19 types of potato. So far they’ve had just one case of covid, which was Sean and only because he ordered in some petrol cut Chinese Chang from the darkweb.

Along_the_Wire

Millsy 😝

LT42

Millsy before traditional dancing and pipe music

Snow Patrol?

mono-stereo

Millsy 😆

Dan

LT42 The Dubliners

Hursty

UK records 42,302 new Covid cases
A further 42,302 new Covid cases have been reported across the UK, alongside another 49 deaths within 28 days of a positive test.

100,000 by august easily

Along_the_Wire

Hursty everyone knew this was going to happen though? It’s not climbing anywhere near the likes of the Guardian were scare-mongering. It’s hospitalisations and deaths that matter.

Hursty

Along_the_Wire I’m hearing now that the reason countries like Aus and NZ are trying the zero tolerance approach is that they want more time to analyse the long term effects of covid.

Seems a little futile to go with zero tolerance as you will never open up again, you can’t suppress a virus forever

Smallman1

Hard to argue against the Aus and NZ approach, my sister lives on the Sunshine Coast and its been business as usual there for months, looks like paradise to me.

Hursty

Smallman1 Yeah but is it sustainable? Can you isolate a country forever? How will it impact their economy in the mid to long term?

RichM

I think people have forgotten that there are so many other causes of people dying everyday, not just covid. Yet we are not saying eg ban alcohol because it killed x number of people last week. Or let’s close all fast food places and ban unhealthy foods so we can free up the NHS because of the number of people admitted with illnesses related to being fat bastards.

We need to start looking at the bigger picture rather than constantly focusing on no of new covid cases all the time.

Amps

RichM Because the things you have mentioned don’t overwhelm the NHS out of the blue, something which would result in a snowball effect and more deaths.

If the grand reopening goes ahead without any restrictions and we get a surge in cases, a surge that we don’t even attempt to restrain for the sake of herd immunity, we are more likely to get a new variant. Who knows what the new one looks like… one that overpowers the vaccines, so we are back to square one? One that kills middle aged white blokes? One that kills kids? Spin the wheel of fortune and lets find out!

Jules72

Don’t want to panic anybody but hospitalisations are running at 500 a day on average over the past week, which is double what the spectator model was envisaging… does that mean we can expect an August death peak well in excess of the 200 a day it was envisaging? Not looking good… though personally I think this is prob the right time to expose the population to the virus so we are prepared better for winter - better the peak happen during the summer than in the winter.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-bad-will-the-third-wave-be-

Millsy

Jules72 yep herd immunity is the plan, wrapped in a more palatable ‘freedom day’ wrapper for nob jockeys like Alistair to get frothy and ‘told you so’ about while the virus silently eats away at his lung capacity over the nect 5 years.

Along_the_Wire

Jules72 at the last peak there were 38,363 in hospital and daily deaths peaked at 1,823 . As of last week there are 3,786 people in hospital and the current peak is 63 deaths - this is like early July last year.

Along_the_Wire

Millsy What do you think we should do Millsy? Can’t let it rip later in the year and another lock down would be really fucking awful

alistair

Millsy Puerile outburst given I am double-jabbed. It’s pretty funny the extent to which covid seems to have infected your brain or what’s left of it. Have your pathetic pile on if you must. I won’t be paying any attention.

Millsy

Along_the_Wire maybe keep the preventative measures in place and enforce them, such as masks and wfh recommendations and limited numbers in enclosed spaces rather than absolute freedom? I’m equally not convinced that we won’t see even worse numbers in the winter anyway. Herd immunity is an untested theory altogether with something so prolific and prone to mutation.

Smallman1

Do you know how I survived the lockdowns?

Minerals.

Jules72

Along_the_Wire yeah but hospitalisations lag cases…can see that number at 20k easily over next couple of months.. anyway I’m with you - we can’t lockdown forever and now is a good time to catch it and boost your immunity. Not sure I want to step into an indoor club mind - indoor club events are going to be superspreader events.. anyone who goes to one and who hasn’t come down with covid is highly likely to catch it.. how many people have we heard of who went to Wembley and caught covid?! Just imagine what will happen with indoor clubs..

Think one important thing to bear in mind is that it’s better to get a moderate dose of this and boost your immunity that way.. if you get a heavy dose e chances of nasty complications goes up a lot… wearing masks indoors still makes a lot of sense imo - even if they don’t prevent you getting it, theyll lower the viral loads you’re exposed to

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