vinnyt77 which highlights that vaccinating younger populations is less about preventing serious illness and death in THAT population, but instead preventing serious illness and death in populations that are more susceptible to the virus.

That still supports my original point, which is that it’s also selfish to demand that young people take on an extra risk themselves for the sake of others, to the extent that if they don’t they should be excluded from public life.

      Sorry I’ve got the wrong bloke entirely!

      LT42 I’m talking about deaths from these issues, my fault for not being precise

      The report states that 1 in 5 cases of blood clots result in death.

      I have not seen a precise age breakdown, but the consensus seems to be it’s most common in women under 60, including down to teenagers. Within that group not sure there’s enough to say whether the chances are higher or lower for say a 20 year-old or a 50 year-old as it depends on the individual’s immune response.

      https://www.euronews.com/next/amp/2021/05/27/why-are-aztrazeneca-and-j-j-vaccines-causing-blood-clots-scientists-claim-they-have-the-an

      https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/italy-halts-astrazeneca-vaccine-under-60s-after-teenager-dies-2021-06-11/

      • LT42 replied to this.

          A friend went to a club on the Sunday freedom night… 200ish went, 30 reported covid positive afterwards and that’s just those who came forward… its absurd to even debate covid passports

            hugopal The report states that 1 in 5 cases of blood clots result in death.

            Still doesn’t prove vaccines are just as dangerous as the virus. If anything it proves blood clots are pretty dangerous.

                hugopal err no… opening nightclubs with tests or covid passports was reckless… I absolutely stand by that.. so stop trying to twist what I’m saying and what I think…see my above comment on friend going to a nightclub- you’re bonkers if you can’t see the issues with the club scene as things stand.

                    Jules72 its absurd to even debate covid passports

                    Correct. We have never had an instance of a man made virus escaping from a dirty, good-for-nothing Chinese lab before. Applying past practices hardly makes sense. Hunt down Hugo with a blowdart gun, and lets get everyone vaxxed up!

                      Vaxxed up, tops off, let’s fucking go!

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                      LT42 1 in 5 of the blood clots caused by the adenovirus vaccines resulted in death.

                      • LT42 replied to this.

                          Jules72 err no… opening nightclubs with tests or covid passports was reckless… I absolutely stand by that..

                          That’s a pretty different comment to “we have to get on and live with it”.

                          PS, in reference to your other post, “cases” mean pretty much bugger all now when the risk of the virus is now no more than the flu - we have to get on and live with it 😉

                              hugopal to the extent that if they don’t they should be excluded from public life.

                              Except that’s not true, is it? No one is being excluded from public life. Some people that choose not to get vaccinated would be excluded from a small number of events. Events where their lack of vaccination would pose a greater risk to others that are more vulnerable.

                                  hugopal still doesn’t prove vaccines are just as dangerous as the virus. You may have overextended yourself with that one. Its ok to admit you were wrong.

                                    Employers need to make the vaxx mandatory.

                                    zackster If the jab reduced the spread, I would see the point of vaccine passports but it doesn’t so its retarded and again showing how fkn controlling and idiotic governments are.

                                        Funky maybe one of the docs on here would be better placed to explain in detail but in layman’s from what I’ve read - the vax boosts the immune system which in turn reduces viral load, this in turn makes it less likely that those in a highly vaccinated group would be infected enough to contract the virus, or if they did they would be asymptomatic, therefore slowing transmission and thus creating herd immunity. Which is why it’s so important to stop signing into Facebook and get the fucking vaccine. If people would prioritise general health over clubbing then we’d all be clubbing quicker together.