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…just bought Arturia’s EFXMotion, had been limiting myself to Live’s effects while I got my head around them, but fancied trying something a little different that gave movement without the need for mammoth FX chains. Quite fun so far but haven’t really deep-dived with it yet.

Am also quite tempted by DS Audio Tantra 2, as it sounds wicked for reshaping rhythmical stuff, but wondering if its a little too similar to the above?

    Unbroken1 That’s popped up as a cross grade in my Arturia account. I don’t need effects, but might opt for it if they drop it further for Black Friday. If you haven’t got FX Fragments, it’s also worth a look.

      Henry …that does look good, however, recently discovered a MaxforLive device called Granulator2 which is prob sophisticated enough for my needs in that area at the moment!

      I may upgrade to ableton 11 soon, so I’ll watch for that sale, otherwise Morph 2 is the only other sale I’m really watching for. I’m sure I’ll impulse buy something, although I’ve been pretty restrained recently.

      https://www.zynaptiq.com/morph/

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        apyssjw …yeah, the fella that helps with my mix/mastering says they are the one essential FX package he couldn’t live without.

        I got Little Plate as a freebie recently, and Soundtoys says to download the bundle as a trial for a ‘special’ Black Friday deal, but they ain’t that cheap to begin with!

          Unbroken1 but they ain’t that cheap to begin with!

          Cost has always put me off - but that might speak to their quality.

          Unbroken1 I bought the entire bundle a few years ago, can’t remember what I paid, but it was definitely a Black Friday sale. I can’t imagine working without it, echoboy is on every track I make, as is little/super plate, panman, and tremolator. If you have the money and the need for some of them, don’t hesitate.

            Can’t see any BF deals yet that persuade me into buying. Thankfully. I should make due with what I have (which is more than enough). As having a plethora of choices does no good go my creativity honestly.

            In synths In have:

            • Logic Alchemy
            • Vital
            • Sylenth

            EQ:

            • Crave EQ

            FX Racks:

            • Guitar Rig 6
            • IK Mixbox

            DONE! All quality tools and a handful of those is all I need. Note to self: stop looking for deals you procrastinating moron..

            Yup. 12 out next year.

            Have to say that 11 has been the most disappointing version to date. Didn’t even make it to 11.5. I’ll probably upgrade to 12. But have to say that some of the functionality that Bitwig has, puts pressure to make 12 a more substantial update than 11 was.

              Henry The additional Midi tools look interesting. I have a ridiculously large sample collection so the sound matching could be interesting - if it’s able to scan your collection and match from there.

              But they’ve left me behind at the moment. I’ve mentioned (about a million times before, sorry) that I’m running windows 7 on my music PC which works flawlessly. I’m not going through the pain of a new system or faff around with dual booting systems for a some midi tools which a max for live device could probably replicate.

                Unbroken1 Woke up to see the update today. 20% off upgrade to 11 and then get a free update to 12 seems like good value. It’s $240 CAD and will probably stop me from buying something else I don’t need.

                apyssjw Will Ableton 12 only run on a particular Windows chipset?

                As for browsing, this looks like nice upgrade to the previous. Finding samples has always been a pain. I was using a plugin called ‘Atlas’ for a while which is supposed to match similar sounds, but quite often failed. Hope the implementation in Ableton 12 works better.

                The ‘flagship’ updates for 11 were things like MPE and comping, which they were really marketed hard during the release campaign but are actually overrated. The only other memorable update in 11 was a synth called ‘Drift’, which was memorable in that I can recall only ever using it once.
                12 seems like a proper update to me. It looks to me like they’ve taken a look at Bitwig and decided to focus on improving time spent browsing and looking for stuff, adding better ways to view plugins in arrangement/session view etc. And it looks like they’ve added a decent synth this time.
                I still think from what I have seen of Bitwig, they are still behind some basic functionality. I would love to be able to open multiple projects up in Ableton and copy ideas seamlessly between them. Or have contextual menus, to avoid having to hunt for plugins. Having said that. I am too old to start learning another fecking DAW.

                  Henry I am too old to start learning another fecking DAW.

                  …ultimately, this!

                  Henry Will Ableton 12 only run on a particular Windows chipset

                  11 was the first to be windows 10 only. Its the operating system which isn’t necessarily hardware dependent - but if I upgrade I’ll lose incompatible software, drivers etc. it’s just not worth it when my machine runs like a dream. A tipping point will come at some point, but I’m not at it yet.

                  That said I have a laptop running Windows 10 so could buy the update to run on that…

                  Upgraded to 11 yesterday, my template looks like a ghost town of plugins that won’t load. Guess I’ll be spending a day on software housekeeping to get it functioning again. Really looking forward to the midi/piano roll updates with version 12 and roar looks interesting too (despite the awful name).