the production thread

Mad_Cyril

Henry The Soundtoys bundle sounds tempting

Is the Decapitator aimed at the Jihadi House market?

Henry

You’ll be on the watch list down at MI5 for typing those two words, MC.

There are also plugins called “Little Alter Boy” and “Phase Mistress”, so I’m not sure all is quite right with the lads over at Soundtoys.

Mad_Cyril

Henry There are also plugins called “Little Alter Boy” and “Phase Mistress”, so I’m not sure all is quite right with the lads over at Soundtoys.

LOL, proper wronguns hiding in plain sight!

Morty-C-137

XLN Audio have their transient shaper ‘DS-10 Drum Shaper’ for sale at $22 (it’s ace):
https://plugindiscounts.com/product/ds-10-drum-shaper/

XO at $55 is a bargain to (same webshop).. I already bought it 2 last year for $70 otherwise I’d be all over that deal.

I am eying the Cableguys Shaperbox 3 bundle for $89 though… need to play around with it more.

Henry

303abuser

Quick Overbridge question for you. Given that the FX in Syntakt are sends, is there any way to route each track wet individually into Ableton? I can only see a set up using dry channels, with a separate FX send track. However, it’s pretty muddy running in one Ableton channel, and I would rather EQ the wet tracks individually.

The only way I can see around it would be to solo each track and record them individually with their sends.

303abuser

Henry That’s the one drawback with how these boxes are set up, insert fx would be helpful. I have a few ways of doing things: one is to do what you said, basically solo each channel and record individually (this is my main method); use the fx on the syntakt as a place holder and just add them back in with ableton; do longer jams with a mix of wet and dry and cut them up after.

I’m doing a lot more resampling now, so it doesn’t bother me as much as it used to. Recording each track solo is a bit of a pain, but you get used to it.

Henry

303abuser

One last question, and I promise to leave you alone! Do you get any latency issues recording into Ableton. For example, if I have hat coming in on the first beat, the hat comes in slightly slower. Which is expected due to latency (I have set the buffer to 256). If I try to compensate for this using Track Delay (on the Syntakt channel) I can get it there or there about to where I want it. The problem is that it is not consistent. So if I record the hat again, using the exact same Track Delay, both fail to record at exactly the same time. So there is no consistency with it. Setting the input monitor to Off also failed to work.

Looks like I’ll have to warp all of the recorded audio?

Henry

Thanks for confirming and that has saved me a few hours scraping the web looking for a way around it.
Not really a big issue for me either. I don’t intend using ST for arranging entire tracks and performing them in song mode etc. More just as a starting point to a track, get a bunch of patterns together, export them out into Ableton and finish the arrangement there. The only faffing around I can see is soloing each track, because for the life of me I cannot find a quick way of doing it!

I ended up buying Echo Boy, which is some plugin and I don’t have anything that comes close to it. I figured that I wouldn’t use most of the other plugins in the bundle, plus I have Arturia’s collection.

303abuser

Henry No worries, ask away. Try this and let me know if it solves the problem … if you’re recording say a simple kick loop (use a kick or something with a transient that hits on beat), record 5 bars and delete the first one, see if it lines up.

There’s usually a delay on the first note and it sorts itself out after that; by deleting the first bar and shifting the loop over, you should get it in time. I’m not sure I’ve ever had to warp anything specifically due to latency.

Henry

It’s not only the first beat that’s off, as the rest are delayed by about 29ms.
I have found a post which comes close to fixing it by turning off the sync function in Overbridge and a few other tweaks. But the first beat is off as you say. I think it will just be as easy to delete the first 29ms on every bit of audio I record into Ableton (wouldn’t have to re-warp after all).
Dunno if this is fixed in Overbridge 2.5.4? I had to run an earlier version due to crackling when playing the ST.

303abuser

I’m not totally sure, I’ve never really had crazy latency issues. Sometimes if it’s out a bit, I just nudge the loop start point in ableton until the groove sounds right.

Henry

No probs. Will learn to live with it and stop moaning about it not being perfect!

303abuser

Henry I’m always moving everything off grid anyways, I just consider it part of the process and it doesn’t bother me too much. As long as the kick is on grid, the rest of it is just taste.

apyssjw

Unbroken1 Just bought it in the sale. It can get far too busy. Only got it today but can see the value in recording the midi and taking it apart to use short phrases etc.

303abuser

Downloaded the morph demo, tried it for half an hour, bought it. Either I’m exceptionally weak or this thing is amazing for sound design.

apyssjw

303abuser both can be true!

303abuser

Lol and probably are in this case.

Morty-C-137

Fook.. I bought ShaperBox 3 at €89 .. it’s just too good.

303abuser

Shaperbox does look pretty useful to be fair. I’ve managed to avoid picking up that or arturia’s efx motions for now, although I’m sure that’ll change at some point.

Morty-C-137

303abuser And it’s a real breeze to use as well. Makes sound shaping that much more fun. I can think of only a few tools in my toolbox that have that kind of ease to work with so that you can not help making fun presets (Vital being one of them).

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