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apyssjw …yeah, the fella that helps with my mix/mastering says they are the one essential FX package he couldn’t live without.

I got Little Plate as a freebie recently, and Soundtoys says to download the bundle as a trial for a ‘special’ Black Friday deal, but they ain’t that cheap to begin with!

    Unbroken1 but they ain’t that cheap to begin with!

    Cost has always put me off - but that might speak to their quality.

    Unbroken1 I bought the entire bundle a few years ago, can’t remember what I paid, but it was definitely a Black Friday sale. I can’t imagine working without it, echoboy is on every track I make, as is little/super plate, panman, and tremolator. If you have the money and the need for some of them, don’t hesitate.

      Can’t see any BF deals yet that persuade me into buying. Thankfully. I should make due with what I have (which is more than enough). As having a plethora of choices does no good go my creativity honestly.

      In synths In have:

      • Logic Alchemy
      • Vital
      • Sylenth

      EQ:

      • Crave EQ

      FX Racks:

      • Guitar Rig 6
      • IK Mixbox

      DONE! All quality tools and a handful of those is all I need. Note to self: stop looking for deals you procrastinating moron..

      Yup. 12 out next year.

      Have to say that 11 has been the most disappointing version to date. Didn’t even make it to 11.5. I’ll probably upgrade to 12. But have to say that some of the functionality that Bitwig has, puts pressure to make 12 a more substantial update than 11 was.

        Henry The additional Midi tools look interesting. I have a ridiculously large sample collection so the sound matching could be interesting - if it’s able to scan your collection and match from there.

        But they’ve left me behind at the moment. I’ve mentioned (about a million times before, sorry) that I’m running windows 7 on my music PC which works flawlessly. I’m not going through the pain of a new system or faff around with dual booting systems for a some midi tools which a max for live device could probably replicate.

          Unbroken1 Woke up to see the update today. 20% off upgrade to 11 and then get a free update to 12 seems like good value. It’s $240 CAD and will probably stop me from buying something else I don’t need.

          apyssjw Will Ableton 12 only run on a particular Windows chipset?

          As for browsing, this looks like nice upgrade to the previous. Finding samples has always been a pain. I was using a plugin called ‘Atlas’ for a while which is supposed to match similar sounds, but quite often failed. Hope the implementation in Ableton 12 works better.

          The ‘flagship’ updates for 11 were things like MPE and comping, which they were really marketed hard during the release campaign but are actually overrated. The only other memorable update in 11 was a synth called ‘Drift’, which was memorable in that I can recall only ever using it once.
          12 seems like a proper update to me. It looks to me like they’ve taken a look at Bitwig and decided to focus on improving time spent browsing and looking for stuff, adding better ways to view plugins in arrangement/session view etc. And it looks like they’ve added a decent synth this time.
          I still think from what I have seen of Bitwig, they are still behind some basic functionality. I would love to be able to open multiple projects up in Ableton and copy ideas seamlessly between them. Or have contextual menus, to avoid having to hunt for plugins. Having said that. I am too old to start learning another fecking DAW.

            Henry I am too old to start learning another fecking DAW.

            …ultimately, this!

            Henry Will Ableton 12 only run on a particular Windows chipset

            11 was the first to be windows 10 only. Its the operating system which isn’t necessarily hardware dependent - but if I upgrade I’ll lose incompatible software, drivers etc. it’s just not worth it when my machine runs like a dream. A tipping point will come at some point, but I’m not at it yet.

            That said I have a laptop running Windows 10 so could buy the update to run on that…

            Upgraded to 11 yesterday, my template looks like a ghost town of plugins that won’t load. Guess I’ll be spending a day on software housekeeping to get it functioning again. Really looking forward to the midi/piano roll updates with version 12 and roar looks interesting too (despite the awful name).

              303abuser
              Which plugins are causing issues? The only issues I had were because I was going from Intel to Silicon, and anything that was VST2. But I know you are already on an M1 chip so that won’t be the case.

              Soundtoys are doing the big bundle for $239. I would go for this, only that I bought the Arturia FX Collection a few years back, and apart from a few things here and there I generally haven’t used many of the FX. Echoboy looks really good, but can get this for $49, so might just go for that. I got the freebee Littleplate this week which is really good.

              Still in two minds whether to get Plasmonic or not, now that is has been reduced to $99. Trackspacer also. Although I managed to find a decent dynamic EQ which probably does the same job with a little more effort.

                Henry Not sure about issues, just lots of vst2 instances apparently. I think I can get around some of the non-m1 compatibility via AU versions, but we’ll see. I suspect voxengo span is going to be a problem and I use that one constantly. Basically my entire master channel chain is greyed out. 😅

                And the soundtoys fx are so much better than arturia. I use the spring reverb and the space echo emulation, but if I had to pick one or the other, it’s soundtoys every time.

                I’m watching for a discount on morph2 still, but I think I’m done spending.

                  303abuser I’m using Span as a VST 3 no issues at all. I have it bunged on my master track too.

                  Yeah, the VST 2 thing is an absolutely pain in the hoop. All of my work before moving to M1 was done using VST2 plug ins. Which basically meant that if I wanted to use any previous work, I would have to save each plugin as a VST 3/AU or bounce the audio. I had hundreds of tracks and as you can imagine this is impossible to do. My back up is my Intel iMac which is at the back of my wardrobe and I fire it up once every 6 months when I want to recover something.

                  The Soundtoys bundle sounds tempting because, like Syntakt, you are always banging on about it. And you were right about Syntakt, so I should probably pay attention. 🙂

                    Henry Good to know with span, I’m going to start tackling it all this afternoon, hopefully it isn’t so bad. And luckily I’m just starting a new album project and I typically don’t go back to borrow from old projects, so hoping that’s not a huge thing going forward too.

                    If you’re looking for creative colour, then soundtoys is it. They’re not designed as clean mixing tools, like fab filter for example, so be aware of that. When I installed 11 yesterday, it scanned 350ish plugins (for perspective) and I go back to soundtoys over and over again. The only ones I use as often are pro q3, novatron and blyss from kush audio, and modnetic.

                      Henry The Soundtoys bundle sounds tempting

                      Is the Decapitator aimed at the Jihadi House market?