the production thread
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303abuser in CAD, my upgrade is $290, $230 after the discount.
Ableton continue to take the piss with their pricing. I understand that Live is basically their only product, but they’re not exactly hurting for usership. That’s basically saying ‘fuck you’ to people who have already paid for the program.
I appreciate that they’re one of the few that do CAD and don’t revert to USD, but still… To compare, Cubase 10.5 Pro to 11 Pro is $150 CAD. Logic outright is $250 if I’m not mistaken? Cubase Pro is $350 CAD.
So yeah, Ableton’s pricing is way out of whack. 
To be honest I’m not that fussed about some of the stuff in the latest version. There’s nothing that made me go ‘phwoar’ and then they continue to charge full on DAW purchase pricing for upgrading… Not cool.
Amps Anyone got any tutorials or info on making giant fuck off laser noises? Preferably in Ableton or using a nice free VST. I can’t see much, so my assumption is that ‘laser noises’ are called something else in the world of proper production. Think Chemical Bros etc.
You just need something with snappy and fast envelopes and modulate the pitch (which can be done with LFO). This is all easily done in the stock synths Ableton has like Analog. I’d start there. Google ‘how to make risers in Ableton’ or something similar.
I’d show you myself but that will get you there quicker. Unless of course you’d truly like me to teach you how to produce… Hehe.
303abuser i need to stop looking at black friday sales. does anyone have experience with arturia’s pigments software? looks really interesting, especially with the modulation options, and it’s on sale for $90 CAD.
Meh. I don’t think it’s any better or worse than the Wavetable synth in Ableton. Mind you, I don’t have much love for wavetable synthesis.
Amps Excellent, any suggestions on what I should buy chaps? I have no plug ins of any sort at the moment. Just using the in built stuff with Ableton.
Get the Softubes bundle Ia… Err, Amps. You’ll actually use those plugins and they’re really good quality. They don’t discount their stuff often and it’s all very good. Worth the price.
303abuser and there you go, $29.99 for any plugin until the 26th, with 2 more sales to follow. now’s the time to look as synths or the more expensive stuff if you’re inclined.
BFD1-2999 is the code for anyone interested.
Is that a Plugin Alliance code? If so, score! I have a few things I want to go legit on that are too pricey otherwise.
loopdokter yeah there are some nice to haves in the new update, but i’m sure my money is better spent in other places. this should’ve been a 10.5 upgrade, not a new version. i waited to upgrade to 10, i’ll likely wait on this one too.
loopdokter how to make risers in Ableton
Fuckin yes Jay!!! I knew they would be called something other than ‘lasers’ 
Damo’s link was spot on, but hard to emulate in the newer version of Ableton for a noob like me. ‘Risers’ seems to get me some more recent results. Big thank you peeps!
loopdokter yes it is. that one is good through tomorrow, then it expires and there will be a new 2 day sale, then a 3rd one after that. if you need several things, start buying now. if you only need one, just wait, i’d imagine the next two sales will be better, can’t imagine the discount being any less.
loopdokter after messing around with it for a few days, i love pigments. i also don’t use wavetables very often, so it’s the synth engines, sampler with granular synthesis, and all the modulation possibilities that i find useful.
loopdokter Get the Softubes bundle Ia… Err, Amps
Spoken like a native!
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Amps let me get back to you tomorrow, i haven’t attempted a laser sound before, but i’ll figure it out. shouldn’t need anything specific, any synth should be able to do it with some work.
edit: which version of ableton do you have? i did a quick sample search and i have about 9000 laser-related samples. if you have suite, just pick one, load it into simpler and process away.
303abuser yeah there are some nice to haves in the new update, but i’m sure my money is better spent in other places. this should’ve been a 10.5 upgrade, not a new version. i waited to upgrade to 10, i’ll likely wait on this one too.
Agreed. It doesn’t feel like an entire 1 point leap forward in terms of typical software upgrades. Outside of 10, Ableton’s upgrade cycle has been kind of weak. They’re starting to lag behind on other DAWs on certain things that I would consider to be industry standard - for instance, having to stem/bounce out entire tracks manually instead of having a queue and automating it. Cubase has had this option for so long and their recent update further improves upon that.
I love Ableton for their ease of use in terms of audio manipulation and being able to write creatively from the offset, but as an over DAW it kind of sucks. It feels to me as though they’re relying too heavily upon their large userbase and not innovating as much as they once did. When Ableton first came out it was blowing people away with the innovative ways that one could create. No longer.
Amps Fuckin yes Jay!!! I knew they would be called something other than ‘lasers’
Filter automation is also your friend on this. The easiest one to do is take a white noise sound, use a low pass filter and automate Ableton to open up the filter so it slowly progresses.
Another term is ‘sweeps’. Lots of tutorials out there on this. Why’d you settle on Ableton instead of Cubase after all those years of poking my brain about Cubase? Hehe.
As far as sound design goes, this is a good one to get stuck into because it allows you to understand basic concepts in synthesis and audio sample manipulation. That sort of stuff will give you a foundation in doing other things later down the line, so you picked a good lesson to learn, young padawan.
Amps Spoken like a native!
I’m probably one of only 3 people on here who knows who you actually are. Haha.