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303abuser …watched a bit of Tom Cosm’s stream on this earlier, that thing where it auto-cuts between linked tracks is wild

    Unbroken1 yeah there are a few things i’m looking forward to. lanes for different takes is a great idea and i love all of the random functions, especially probabilities for velocity/pressure/etc. the suite upgrade is a bit cheaper than last time too.

    …yeah, lanes, that’s it. Fucking annoying you have to turn off automation view to see them, I’ll never remember that in a million years!

    What was that function where it cut between the different lanes based on a user set pattern? sounded mad

      Unbroken1 i’ll have to look again, but it has something to do with that link function i think or maybe the new “jump” follow action?

      Got an email from Ableton offering 20% early bird which I will go for.

      30 minute overview of the new features with Petrichor here:

      Looks really good. Can use MPE with Push 2 which is a bonus. Hybrid Reverb and scale option for clips also big pluses that I can see myself using a fair bit.

      Also got an early bird invite for the upgrade with 20% which is a no brainer. 😀

        Henry Also got an early bird invite for the upgrade with 20% which is a no brainer.

        is that 20% off upgrading 9 to 10, with a free upgrade to 11 OR 20% off upgrading 10 to 11?

          303abuser I’m going from 10 so not sure version 9 owners. The email link just took me to my account so presumably Ableton are targeting 10 users?

            Henry ah i see, i logged in and it shows the discount there. i was under the impression the discount was for people upgrading from 9.

            Unbroken1 in CAD, my upgrade is $290, $230 after the discount.

              …fuck, that’s quite a lot, only upgraded to 10 last December 🙁

              The update from 9 to 10 took years so agreed this is a bit of a pisser having this come so soon.
              Bit disappointed about not getting a new synth too. The Poli synth has been around for ages and looks a bit shit. I do wonder whether this will be a regular thing now with more regular releases.

              Having said all that the updates I mentioned earlier plus the additional packs that will surely follow will make it worth it.

              it’s definitely early and i appreciate that they dropped the upgrade price, but this seems like a 10.5 version rather than 11.0.

              Comping and scales overlay on the piano roll I’d definitely use - which are time savers more than anything. I already have beatseaker so it’s a bit annoying that it’s going to be an integrated feature. I’m not sure how linked editing would be helpful. Extra macro’s is fine. Easy on additional packs / effects etc. Biggest issue for me though is that my music computer runs Windows 7 and this will be Windows 10 only. I don’t really want to reconstitute it again, having survived the harddrive crash from last year.

              Amps Again, another synth line today that isn’t complete dog shit. Result.

              Anyone got any tutorials or info on making giant fuck off laser noises? Preferably in Ableton or using a nice free VST. I can’t see much, so my assumption is that ‘laser noises’ are called something else in the world of proper production. Think Chemical Bros etc.

                Have you tried googling ‘pew, pew, pewwwww’?

                Works in Lego Batman

                Amps I’m with you. Laser noises are both awesome and essential. Experiment with pitch envelopes, as a large element of the sound can be fast pitch dropping or rising. Same with filter sweeps. Or get sampling them from where ever and do the same thing. In short experiment.

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                  apyssjw Yeah, I need the fisher price my first laser noise tutorial.

                  …ancient version of Live, but principles are the same:

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                    i need to stop looking at black friday sales. does anyone have experience with arturia’s pigments software? looks really interesting, especially with the modulation options, and it’s on sale for $90 CAD.

                      @303abuser I have not forgotten about your feedback. It’s all valid. I haven’t had use of my mousing hand lately… I got one of those old fucker diseases that’s ruined using a desktop the past few weeks. Shingles. Fucking shingles! Almost healed, but the random weird pain is obnoxious. Do not recommend.

                        303abuser Aye! Bought it when it was half price earlier this year. It’s a beast in terms of options to modulate. And very simple to do so too: lots of graphics (colours) to show you which you are modulating so you don’t lose track on what is going where.
                        One of the really cool features it has is the function option (3 of these) which you can basically draw in your modulating pattern and then assign something to that.

                        The thing that swung it for me was the sound engine. Really really clear and so much fuller than something like Serum or bundled Ableton synths. Add to that the really cool grantulator mode and for the price they are offering, it’s a no brainer really.

                          Henry i was hoping you were going to say it’s shit and to stay far away. 🤣

                          you basically confirmed what i saw in a couple of videos. it really does look good at that price, not that i need it, but who buys things they need? what’s it like for cpu usage? i know with diva, i can run a few instances, but if i have the quality set to ‘divine’ with tons of modulation, i have to bounce to audio to keep things moving.

                            JonQPublik that sucks, hope you get rid of it sooner vs later. i feel like i’m falling apart this week too, so i can sympathize a little.

                            303abuser CPU doesn’t get hammered too much. I’m on an iMac 2015 with just an i5 chip and it never gets above 30% with a few synths pumping away. As usual, as you increase the voices it tends to go up a bit.

                            If you are looking for something that is easy to modulate, then this is what you want. Why not just get the demo first and take the plunge if you like it?

                            The other Arturia synths look really good too. They’re trying to tempt me with offers for the Collection 7. I really like what they do emulating classic sounds. But not sure I need another massive list of synths to start learning. Still trying to learn Pigments!

                              Henry that should work then, i’m still using my 2012 mac mini, but that thing is a workhorse given it’s age.

                              honestly, i’ll probably just buy it for the sampler and granular functions alone. i have enough synths, but more noisemakers are always good. once you’ve learned one, they’re all just variations and it comes down to finding the sweet spots.

                              A Mac Mini 2012! Fecking hell. Gives me hope that my iMac running everything from an external SSD boot up disk will still last me for years then!

                              You’re right about the synths all doing pretty much the same thing. Although as I mentioned the Arturia sound engines are so good it will stand apart from many competitors.

                                Henry yeah i’m amazed it’s doing as well as it is. i did upgrade to 16 gb of ram and it’s got the fusion drive, but i’m waiting for it to die at some point.

                                off to buy pigments and spend the afternoon messing with software instead of finishing tracks lol.

                                I see Apple has released new laptops using their own silicon.

                                Interested to see how logic runs on this new gear, particularly when running non-native binaries under emulation.

                                Early benchmarks suggesting they blow intel CPUs out of the water.

                                i saw that. the initial reviews look good, but i won’t be going anywhere near it for a couple of years until it’s been publicly tested. going to try to stretch my mini as out as long as i can. if you’re running logic and only apple software though, i would assume it’s a pretty good upgrade.

                                mono-stereo yeah that’s the first thing i did. nothing fancy, but just playing around with envelopes/filters/lfos and i already like it. it’s going to take months to really figure it all out though. even if you just look at it as money spent on entertainment, it’s good value.

                                Trying to be super disciplined this year. Scaler 2 is the only new plugin I actually want (other than reason / live upgrades). Anyone have any experience of using it?

                                haven’t used scaler myself, sorry. almost looked it up then decided not to in case i like it haha.

                                woke up at 430 this morning thinking about granular synthesis, i may have a problem. 🤣