Hursty Seems like it could be a way to ensure taxes are buoyed by banning them? There isn’t much tax revenue generated from their use, no CAZ income etc

There’s a conspiracy in there if you’re willing to look hard enough

    Hursty They’re a lovely idea, but the reality has it’s issues. I think somewhere like Amsterdam they make a lot of sense, but most of the western world just doesn’t have the infrastructure for them. If we focused on more dedicated hard kerbed cycle lanes for cyclists it’d be a start.

    As ever, the government has no interest in getting the tiny penis crew out of their twat panzers, an easy to solve problem, so they’re not about to make any big pay outs for for bike infrastructure any time soon.

        Amps Oulu is one of the best biking cities in Finland, take a look at where it is on a map.

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            The e-scooters work well here in Istanbul. Granted, health & safety isn’t a concept here so there could be hundreds dying on the roads here without me knowing.

            Thanks again for your time.

            Regards.

            Amps pretty up north was my point. Re infrastructure.

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                Homegrove Yeah, the main argument for Northern and Southern cities is that the elements become an issue, or for anywhere that isn’t flat, the hills become an issue. But it’s mostly bollocks. Plenty of people cycle in cold climates and plenty of people cycle in mountainous areas. The Swiss fuckin love a push bike.

                And it works the other way too, there are lots of flat places with mild climates where nobody cycles because the infrastructure is all car orientated.

                Good on the Oulu civic crew for getting their shit together 👍️

                    Amps cyclists here are jealous of cyclists in Oulu. Turku is still a very car centric-city. The center is nearly impossible to cycle through.

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                        Homegrove No real excuses in a city like Turku, you have big wide streets you can adapt, you’re not dealing with an old medieval layouts and buildings that you can’t get around.

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                          Schiphol airport say they are banning private jets, which is a start.

                          Will they ban E scooters in Holland though?

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                          They can’t even stand to see you return a fuckin bottle. They must make the maximum amount of profit at all costs.

                          Love the idea of bottle deposit scheme, works really well in other countries. Hopefully it will eventually come into existence

                          We’ve perfected it. I can’t understand how hard it is for other countries to do it.

                          We had in the UK many years ago. I think it ended in the 70’s or early 80’s

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                            They have one in Croatia, seems to work really well. You pick up a crate at the shop, as in a proper plastic crate and pop the empties in when finished

                            It had to cut down on littering at the very least

                            Dubman

                            I vaguely remember one in the early 80s in our local shops, although that was more than likely to try and stop the UDA filling them with petrol and throwing them at catholic houses!