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RichM Wondering how you got on with this. I have ordered a batch of capsules with a mix of Lion’s Mane, Cordyceps, Chaga, Reishi, Maitake over the weekend, but skeptical when it comes to proven effects.

Anyone else who has had good experiences with certain nootropics?

On a different tangent; I have begun looking into low dose Kratom for days or nights when I just need a bit of clear focus energy and not be as tired or overstimulated as I usually tend to be ever since my biggest burn-out a few years ago. I am reading some horror stories on Kratom though how some build a quick tolerance, binds to opiod receptors and cause withdrawal… not keen on that, but also not planning huge dosages.

I am looking to get something that actually helps my AudHD brain until I can get some methylfenidate from my doctor (which will take some time still).

    Morty-C-137 I’ve not been taking the capsules regularly enough to notice too much of a difference. However the days I wfh, I do find if I take a couple of capsules in the morning my concentration is better when I’m working.

    Lions Mane helped in the days after the Roundhouse gig for sure 😀

    In all seriousness, feel like you need to take it religiously for it to make a difference. I was a massive sceptic at first, but it does make some sort of difference from a sharpness perspective. Mind you, i’m starting from a very low baseline so anything upwards is a bonus !

    The cost is a bit lumpy.

    Cheers guys. I’m on day 3 so I’ll see after a month. I’m taking it with an additional supplement of Maca. The cost does stack up quickly of you are aiming for about a gram a day all year.

    Any experience with Kratom on here?

    Morty-C-137 Wondering how you got on with this. I have ordered a batch of capsules with a mix of Lion’s Mane, Cordyceps, Chaga, Reishi, Maitake over the weekend, but skeptical when it comes to proven effects.

    Anyone else who has had good experiences with certain nootropics?

    While you may see some benefits from such a multi ingredient pill, with such nootropics I would first suggest trying them all individually before regularly taking such a combination.

    I’ve only tried a couple of the ingredients you’ve listed there, but have tried quite a few different nootropics over the years and their effects (or lack thereof) have seemed very variable and unpredictable. Some have seemed good, some have seemingly done nothing, some have seemingly had the opposite kind of effect to what they were supposed to, and some I just didn’t get on with at all.

    So when chucking them all together you won’t know which of the individual supplements are actually benefitting you and worth persevering with, and a positive effect from one ingredient could be masking a negative effect from another.

    If after trying most the main ingredients separately and generally seeing benefits, or at least no ill effects from any, then it might make sense from a convenience or cost effectiveness perspective to continue with just an all in one pill, but I’d experiment with the main ingredients individually first.

      hugopal You have a point. I thought this would be the most cost effective way to just ‘cocktail’ them all together into one supplement assuming they’d all have cognitive benefits.

      It’s basically the same formula as their Clearly Not Coffee apart from not having the cacao and maca in their capsules.

      Yeah agree with Hugo that it is better to know what helps and taking one thing at a time allows you to take a higher dose with a more distinct effect.

      I started taking Lions Mane in early part of the summer. Definitely noticed a bit more sharpness, feeling of contentment but mainly noticed it was like it flicked a mindfulness switch. It is completely unlike me, but I now find being out in nature really enjoyable noticing beauty. Suspect that if you’re not noticing anything, it is worth introspecting and attempting to notice any subtle shifts in your consciousness.

      Have also been microdosing psilocybin for a couple of months and have noticed more of a sense of having ‘good days’.

        Morty-C-137 when I just need a bit of clear focus energy and not be as tired or overstimulated as I usually tend to be ever since my biggest burn-out a few years ago.

        I hear you there - this has been my biggest challenge in life since somewhere around 2016. I had a few burnouts and one compounded on top of a traumatic event and I swear ever since then normal life got harder.

        If I could concentrate in the morning, I fucking couldn’t in the afternoon, and if I had to deal with something tricky or confrontational, instead of just dealing with it normally it would fuck the rest of my day off (I’d need to sit somewhere comfortable, watch something familiar, not work). Cognition = gone. Wanting to deal with anyone = gone - and I’m normally great at this. It wasn’t anxiety either - it was more like apathy and avoidance.

        In 2020 I bought Kratom and probably didn’t dose it right. I never really got into it. I remember having too much (the tell tale sign is you feel nauseous and you can’t shake it for hours) and after that event I just stopped trying like how you avoid an alcoholic drink you were sick on - but people do recommend A. getting the dosage right and B. spacing the doses in a certain manner to avoid any chance of dependency.

        Kratom does have a long history of traditional use and I still believe it can be useful despite not taking to it myself.

        Bear in mind if you take prescribed methlyphenidate and it doesn’t agree with you (after a couple of weeks) then you can try Long Release version of it, or you can switch to Dexamfetamine (short release) or Lisdexamfetamine (long release). One of them honestly made it difficult for me to do lateral thinking and I was more easily angered if treated unfairly (fuck you , Ryanair), so I switched and the other works fine without the intensity. If it works for you don’t change it.

        Don’t let anyone sway you on which is best either, everyone’s brain is different and two people can say the same negative / positive outcome about the opposite drug to you - you have an individual brain which works best with an individual drug and no one is going to tell you accurately what that is - you have to try it and decide. You may even get better results from Non Stimulants.

        Also these are your friend with regards to ADHD / ADD:

        • L-Tyrosine (helps with the low Dopamine issue making it easier to stay on task)

        • Omega 3 Fish oils (with high EPA / DHA) (helps with concentration)

        • Lions Mane Mushroom (memory/concentration)

        • Vitamin B Complex (energy levels / brain function) (avoid this if taking a strong multivitamin already)

        • Vitamin D with K2 (helps with inattention / hyperactivity) - reduces ADHD symptoms

        • Magnesium Glyicinate (1h before bed) helps regulate your nervous system so you 1. get to sleep and 2. stay asleep (sidenote, this is apparently a game changer for anyone who has restless leg syndrome keeping them awake)

        • Exercise before work (can you walk to work, or cycle? get off public transport 1 stop earlier and walk the last bit? or is there a gym near you or en route to work?)

        I was the most productive in my entire life when I attended every gym class round the corner before work. Spinning, Body Pump, Boxercise, it didn’t matter which one I just went to something where I didn’t have to decide what to do - the blood pumping to the prefrontal cortex is the goal.

        When doing this I went into work positively buzzing and my staff eventually noticed when I missed a day proclaiming I didn’t seem as bright.

        Hope some of that helps

          whatever Have also been microdosing psilocybin for a couple of months and have noticed more of a sense of having ‘good days’.

          Glad to hear this mate. I kept forgetting lately and jumped back on the wagon - defo made a difference. I think I need to set reminders on Mon/Thurs to be honest.

          NasserAlazzawi Magnesium Glyicinate

          May have to give this a try as I’m having trouble sleeping at the moment

          NasserAlazzawi t was more like apathy and avoidance.

          Go and see a shrink, they could probably box this off for you in a couple of sessions, shouldn’t cost more than a few hundred quid.

            NasserAlazzawi Thank you for sharing! Many of it sounds all to familiar. Regular life can get so exhausting but so can be a brain/nervous system that never shuts the fuck up. The upside of it for me (having a nervous system like that) is greater insights, awareness and overall consciousness. The downside is the amount of energy it takes and the disconnect with most people around me.

            I think I might just order Lions Mane separately and go from there (I read good things on L-Theanine as well). Being AuDHD my brain is not ‘all over the place’ but it is ‘always on’ and instead of being scattered it very deeply goes on and on into the depths of one topic (mono tropic) even if I don’t want it to. And fuck, not even on the topics I want it to perse.

            “Oh you wanted to do all this other shit today? No here’s that thing from your relationship the other person has already forgot about and we are going to analyse it with the vigor and knowledge of all of psychology until the mater gets addressed in the next encounter.. and it WILL get addressed!!”

            next encounter partner feels overwhelmed and analyzed

            Amps And they will say “trauma related” and we will concur, but does not stop our brain from working the way it does. During my burnout I got Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Yeah, that shit don’t work for me. Trying to instill concepts of metacognition I was already aware of and doing since I was 12 years old. Another upside/downside from having this brain.

            That is also part of where the disconnect with other humans comes from in everyday life. They just experience themselves, others and life in general so differently and they find it almost impossible to imagine that your experience is so different from theirs. Making it harder to get something from them when it’s time to protect your actual boundaries.

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              whatever Dan,
              Do these nootropics show up on drug tests as illegal drugs? I’m interested as I’ve a lot of crap going on at the moment, but because of my job I’m screened constantly. 😕

                Morty-C-137 Another upside/downside from having this brain

                Yes, but, as you point out, we’re not all the same so it may well work for Nass, and quite quickly and effectively, so it’s worth him having a go.

                  Dan

                  Nootropics - no.

                  Psylicybin from what I’m reading online is “not in normal drug testing kits”.

                  On top of that, in theory since a microdose is such a tiny amount you would not meet a threshold marker even if they looked.

                  That said, I’d be careful risking a career it - perhaps learn more about the type of test they do.

                  a month later

                  Wondering how @Morty-C-137 and @hugopal and others are doing with this stuff.

                  I’ve been consistent for a couple of months now and feel good. Sunday night and Wednesday night microdosing (straight after work so it does not affect sleep)