Lolz at Sharron Davies wading in.

You’re male, use the changing room with other males or at the very least the unisex changing room! Deciding you wanting to change where you want to change does NOT trump women & girls rights. Ps I don’t know a single female that would subject that level of discomfort on others

LT42 correct me if I’m wrong (by all means but just keep it to a maximum of one paragraph, please), but your whole premise is that Trans are using bathrooms just so they can take their knobs out in front of women which is a bigoted and ignorant assumption that all Trans women are perverts and are out to terrorise women with their weapons. If there’s a point you’re trying to make you’re not making it very well.

You are clearly misrepresenting what I’ve said, and I don’t know how you’ve got that from my post you were quoting. Firstly, I don’t think anyone with a cock should be in a woman’s changing room or bathroom, whether they are perverts or not. Females should be able to use those facilities in peace without having to worry that a bloke is there or being subjected to the sight of their dick. Secondly, I’m pointing out that a person even genuinely claiming to be a trans “woman” can still be attracted to women themselves - and it appears the majority actually are. That isn’t to say that many who are genuinely claiming to be trans will be pervs, but you’ll have to be deluded to think that none of them will be, and that if you put a bunch of men with cocks who are attracted to women in a room of sweaty gym girls changing that they’ll all keep their eyes to themselves. Plus, by allowing it you will indeed further increase the risk in future of bad actors basically just donning wigs to be allowed access to those spaces.

    It’s not for men to decide anyway is it? As a parent of girls I’d want a say though I suppose. Probably need a vested interest to make a call. Things change when they’re your kids involved though that’s for sure. What I do know if I had young or teenage daughters, or even my Mrs in the same changing room as old mate Derek in his charity shop polyester 50’s granny clobber above, I’d be fucking fewmin.

      Cankles-McJeggings

      The absolute entitlement in that tweet. Zero recognition given to women that may have been sexually assaulted by men in the past

      alistair it is difficult to comprehend that the entire account is not a parody.

      Transgenders don’t dress like that do they? Tranvestites dress like that. Who the fuck would want to look like Nora fucking Batty?

      So what about the other way round, a woman coming into the men’s changing room as they are transitioning into a male? Would there be as much resistance to this?

      hugopal indeed, there are some seriously fit women down my local Virgin 😂

      Some notable posters missing from the voters in the poll:

      @Along_the_Wire - probably because he knows what the correct answer is, but also loves virtue signalling and trying to pretend he’s not a “cunt” too much to simply answer the question.

      @LT42 - perhaps for a similar reason to the above.

      @Smallman1 - because he’s incapable of independent thought.

      @Millsy - the enigma.

      @zackster - maybe concerned that people might think his love for Trump isn’t largely ironic.

      @Amps and @Homegrove - so much for being supposed allies!

        hugopal doesn’t bother me in the least. Public restrooms are places of shame. Unless your are in there to take a quick piss, you have mismanaged your day. Worrying about who’s got a cock is the least of your problems if its 11am and you’re taking a shit at Ihop. I admit that I find people who make trans rights their entire existence annoying, distracting, and divisive. Any people who lie in wait for you to misidentify their pronouns are the lowest of the low. Up there with un-ironic Q heads. However, I get that most trans people are not trying to be the best at women’s swimming, nor are they using the bathroom just to steal your niece. Their lives have to be incredibly difficult. So, why punch down? Further more, I find the debate to be a distraction from bigger issues like the wealth gap, climate change, and my country giving $8B a year to Israel. Bigger fish to fry.

          zackster that’s a very long and whataboutery post to completely dodge the question of letting men with cocks in changing rooms. But it seems you’ve voted to allow it anyway.

          Trump will be disappointed in you.

            hugopal Trump will be disappointed in you.

            Que? Don LOVES our LGBTQ brothers and sisters!

              zackster your post talks about: “public restrooms”, “ihop”, “misidentify pronouns”, “women’s swimming” and “bathroom”. It does not mention someone with a cock getting in the women’s shower at the gym.

                zackster Que? Don LOVES our LGBTQ brothers and sisters!

                You can largely be supportive of the community while not agreeing with every policy:

                “Donald Trump’s government has revoked guidance to US public schools that allowed transgender students to use toilets matching their gender identity.”

                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39047883

                zackster the thread title literally has bathroom in it.

                It says “bathrooms and changing rooms” - you talk about bathrooms, and lots of other unrelated stuff, yet avoid mentioning changing rooms.

                And you’re doing it again here now.

                But you’ve already voted that you think it’s fine for someone with a cock to go in to women’s changing rooms, get naked, look around, go in to the shower etc., so alright, if that’s your view.

                If there’s any confusion I’ll put it down to @bosstrabs messing up by being lazy the third time he poses the question in his original post (he should edit it really).

                  hugopal your post talks about: “public restrooms”, “ihop”, “misidentify pronouns”, “women’s swimming” and “bathroom”. It does not mention someone with a cock getting in the women’s shower at the gym.

                  lol

                  hugopal changing rooms

                  Here in the greatest country on earth, a changing room is somewhere you go to change a diaper. You are describing locker rooms. Either way my stance doesn’t change. If a critical mass of women come forward saying that cocks in the showers is an issue then what can we do but listen and react? To my knowledge that hasn’t happened, so what is the big deal?

                    Seems to be an alarming lack of cocks in lady’s locker room showers

                    I am a tad surprised that a frequent patron of Berghain is this concerned about gender distinctions in bathrooms.

                      zackster Here in the greatest country on earth, a changing room is somewhere you go to change a diaper. You are describing locker rooms. Either way my stance doesn’t change. If a critical mass of women come forward saying that cocks in the showers is an issue then what can we do but listen and react? To my knowledge that hasn’t happened, so what is the big deal?

                      Well a 2021 YouGov research poll found that 43% of women in the USA thought trans “women” should not be able to use women’s changing rooms (locker rooms), which was more than the 40% of women who thought they should be allowed. So nerrr:

                      https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2c3z3qlgwu/tabs_Transgender_Issues_20210825[1430].pdf

                      And anyway, even if it was only a minority of women who were unhappy with such a policy, their right to privacy should surely still take precedent.

                      zackster As always, I stand with the real POTUS

                      Except on this issue you don’t.

                      As I already posted above, which you seem to have ignored, amongst other things:

                      “Donald Trump’s government has revoked guidance to US public schools that allowed transgender students to use toilets matching their gender identity.”

                      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39047883

                        Nearly 100% of men over the age of 40 on the forum want cocks out of the ladies bog, so who am I to stand in your way? Start policing those lady’s rooms, boys!

                          zackster I am a tad surprised that a frequent patron of Berghain is this concerned about gender distinctions in bathrooms.

                          BH is BH. It’s distinct from say a gym or a swimming pool. The people that go there won’t have the same expectations and necessarily be the same people.

                          Someone going to BH should be aware of, and ok with, the likelihood of there being a bunch of naked people inside. If not then they shouldn’t be there.

                          But I don’t think many women just wanting to get changed and shower at the gym, or mothers taking their daughters to the swimming pool, would be as relaxed about there being people with cocks out where they are.

                          By a similar token, just because some people take ecstasy, get naked and dance to loud techno in BH, you surely wouldn’t also advocate for that to be allowed in cafes, libraries, schools, churches and hospitals etc.

                           

                          Along_the_Wire because I don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer. It’s a mess.

                          That’s a cop-out on the specific issue being discussed. You (and your wife) would think it is acceptable if “Anne” Coombes above just waltzes in to the women’s swimming pool changing room while your wife is using the shower?

                            Along_the_Wire your sarcasm detector is broken, Hugo

                            I think it’s more that zacko’s brain is glitching out and he can’t string a coherent thought together.

                            Hugo talking sense on this matter, it pains me to say.

                            Nightclubs are over 18 venues. There are not children using the facilities.

                            This is NONCE SENSE!

                            Just wait until one of those trans woman lays a massive fucking cable in the ladies on a Friday morning. Guarantee the Doris fraternity will change their tune and want segregation.

                              hugopal it’s not a cop out at all, it’s far more nuanced than that and I’m just not sure what the answer is - it’s a fucking mess. To be honest, I’d rather not converse with you on any subject if that’s okay?