Along_the_Wire Lol ok big man
Truss (general uk sucks thread)
Hursty How tall are you and how much do you weigh?
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I live in Finland. London is a bit different. So no, I don’t feel afraid walking home alone at night. But I’ve clearly spooked several women on those occasions just by existing. But I haven’t taken it personally, just crossed the street instead of walking behind her.
Along_the_Wire Why does that matter? What I’m trying to understand is how do we stop these crimes being committed? That is the real argument here.
Yes I totally understand and sympathise that women will be more fearful walking alone in a city generally speaking, but again, I’m not seeing anyone tackling the real issue which is a way in which these lone wolf attacks against women can be reduced.
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Take a look at the stats. The picture isn’t as simple as Grant is making it out to be. Women are twice as likely to be victims of domestic abuse, whilst men are more than twice as likely to be victims of homicides. Ridiculing men for also being scared to walk the streets alone at night isn’t clever.. What I despise is the pitting of men against women that some politicians and journalists specialise in. According to today’s Guardian, the police is institutionally misogynist. It’s bullshit.
Along_the_Wire How tall are you and how much do you weigh?
That’s the extreme opposite point to Hursty’s though, the idea that if you are well-built you can handle yourself and don’t need to worry.
Ask my mate who is a well built centre half with the ability to leg it (both fast and with aerobic fitness), he’ll tell you about being hospitalised from a random shit-kicking he had walking back alone from a night out where he nearly got his face caved in.
Basically, how hard you are doesn’t really matter if they have the numbers and / or mug you with knife.
Not sure anyone is saying its not a problem. More people have issue with the politicisation of it, amateur or professional. If anything it undermines or distracts from productive dialogue.
Look at the state of this…
Hursty Violence against women is predominantly a men’s problem, not a women’s problem.
I do some, but probably not enough.
- I take an active role in helping male kids I’m around a lot not to exacerbate some of the not so good social perspectives on gender.
- I have lobbied (and will continue to lobby) National Government, my local MP and my local council to improve services for women who suffer from any form of abuse
- I try to hold men accountable when I hear them spouting bullshit views about abuse towards women, whether friends, family, work colleagues or random internet people
- I donate to a couple of women’s support charities on a monthly basis
- I’ve been on a couple of protest marches in support of better action against abusers of women, though not since 2019
Vinny clearly atoning for some outrageous behaviour 20 years ago that he still feels ashamed about
️bosstrabs my point is that women are more vulnerable
alistair Hugo-Lite strikes again.
Men are far, far more likely commit violent crimes and mostly to other men involved in those crimes. To compare that to violence and abuse against women is obtuse at best.
I agree with you on the Guardian article to be fair, but the Guardian is a long way past it’s best.
Along_the_Wire vulnerable to what though? Sexual violence absolutely. Knife/gun crime absolutely not. Making the streets safer is an issue we can all get behind. Mental Guardian talk of 6pm male only curfews and a misogynist police force doesn’t help anyone.
Having attended a few hen dos, let me tell you I was absolutely petrified.
You put a good looking lad in a room with a load of inebriated women and mamma mia, you have got one explosive situation on your hands.
