zackster is it fair too simply assume that I don’t agree with murder, torture and kidnapping of innocent civilians, or is that just too much for people to grasp?

      Along_the_Wire when you accused me of being worse than Hitler

      I never said that - your head is clearly in a bit of a muddle.

      Along_the_Wire Since the Second WORLD War, where the Germans were trying to trying to capture an entire fucking continent,

      And the “entire fucking continent” responded with war.

      Hamas want to capture Israel, so Israel have responded with war.

      Along_the_Wire I’ve been clear

      You really haven’t, you’re still dodging the question. The notion that no civilians be killed when their country is run by a totalitarian regime that has waged war on another - just because there haven’t been elections in a while - is just fanciful. For one thing, you’d de facto be saying that any country could just become a totalitarian one and ban elections if it wishes to wage war and you’d allow it to do what it wants indefinitely without repercussions because supposedly the people are all in disagreement

      As an additional note - I’ve mentioned before that the most reliable opinion polls available have had Hamas support in Gaza at consistently above 50% across recent years.

      And besides would it then be alright if just the addresses of the people who voted for Hamas be targeted - if they had access to the voting slips?

              Along_the_Wire is it Palestine or Hamas that are attacking Israel? You seem to be confused yourself.

              As I keep asking you - and well done for my point finally seeming to sink in to your head to some degree - does it make a difference? In WW2 were the allies at war with Germany, or just the totalitarian Nazi regime which had banned elections?

                  nicksneddon The Israeli government have been waiting years for a trigger like this so they can erase the Palestinian population and move in on the land

                  So then why did the Palestinians give them that “trigger”?

                    zackster Yes yes but do you condemn Hamas? Do you? I haven’t seen you say you have once! How can we even have a conversation if you don’t condemn Hamas?!

                    Hamas have feelings too Zacko, let’s not be mean

                      hugopal As an additional note - I’ve mentioned before that the most reliable opinion polls available have had Hamas support in Gaza at consistently above 50% across recent years.

                      Do you think Palestinians might be scared of Hamas and when it comes to option polls that they might just say what’s needed to be heard so they don’t have their door blown in at 3am?

                        hugopal You really haven’t, you’re still dodging the question

                        Your question is about whether or not the allies should or shouldn’t have pummelled Germany right? I’ve said it’s not comparable - international law has changed for starters. If you want me to directly answer an irrelevant question, then my answer is, I’m not sure - I disagree with innocent lives being lost in their tens of thousands on either side.

                            Along_the_Wire The Conservative Party didn’t invade The Falklands, did they?

                            It’s debatable if any invasion of the Falklands even took place by the UK, let alone the Conservatives or any other party.

                            So anyway, you’d say that Israel is at war with Palestine then, based on the weird example you’ve tried to use above? Not just Hamas?

                                Along_the_Wire then my answer is, I’m not sure

                                That’s fine, at least you finally tried to consider it.

                                Along_the_Wire international law has changed for starters

                                “International law” bans the taking of hostages, as an FYI.

                                      hugopal “International law” bans the taking of hostages, as an FYI.

                                      I they shouldn’t have done it, obviously.

                                        hugopal I suggest they’re at war with Palestinians - they seem to be indiscriminately killing innocent civilians. It’s a war that can’t be won and will only get worse.

                                          Along_the_Wire Yeah you fucking did.

                                          No I did not - I said your thinking was similar to one of Hitler’s points of reasoning, not that you were “worse than”. And as a reminder - your stated opinion was that you “didn’t care” if millions of civilians died if they were merely unvaccinated, including that you subsequently wouldn’t have minded if they were therefore sent to concentration camps.

                                          A very bizarre opinion considering your supposed compassion for civilians in this thread - in fact I doubt that most of the people in the Gaza Strip were vaccinated (nb - they weren’t), so why should you even care that they are dying now?

                                          I didn’t just pluck the comment out of thin air!

                                            Listen to yourself. You’re comparing my view on unvaccinated people (who had a choice) to innocent civilians being killed in a war?

                                            For the sake of the wider board, can we go back to ignoring each other please?