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hugopal

mono-stereo there you go again, conflating “Gazans” with Hamas.

Gaza is run by Hamas. What the heck are you even suggesting?!

mono-stereo

hugopal I’m suggesting that the people of Gaza and Hamas are two separate entities.

I shouldn’t need to spell that out to you really, but you seem fundamentally confused.

mono-stereo

hugopal Sure it’s literally the pieces of soil on the ground in the regions that was accidentally blown by air and in to the territory of the next country and started firing machine guns.

Quoted for posterity 😅

Homegrove

mono-stereo you too, stop the feeding the troll.

Mad_Cyril

mono-stereo fundamentally confused.

I like what you did there

303abuser

mono-stereo Cheers, I’m just so tired of all of this. Muppets have gone from being instant virology experts to geopolitical experts, it’s inane.

mono-stereo

Homegrove Apologies hanu. I’ll bow out here.

zackster

hugopal Okay, let’s “humanize” them a bit more again (I have already given some info on their internal politics and demographics before, if you’d bothered to read).

You’ve tried to claim Gaza as being “an open air prison” - yet the Gazans themselves are the ones who effectively imprison their own women in the country:

“A Hamas-run Islamic court in the Gaza Strip has ruled that women require the permission of a male guardian to travel”

"The decision by the sharia judicial council, issued on Sunday, says an unmarried woman may not travel without the permission of her “guardian”, which would usually refer to her father or another older male relative. Permission would need to be registered at the court, but the man would not be required to accompany the woman on the trip.

The language of the ruling strongly implied that a married woman would not be able to travel without her husband’s approval."

This is the crux of ur disdain for them isn’t it? They don’t live like us westerners. Its W Bush era Iraq and Afghanistan all over again. Once we are done women will be able to see U2 concerts and hold office jobs. Yay freedom!

hugopal

zackster Yay freedom!

So is it a big deal that Palestinian citizens are apparently kept within the borders of their territory or not? You’re contradicting yourself here.

Also, if you think that they have a good way of life then how about you try and move there? I’m sure they’d welcome an American Jew with open arms - they’d probably throw a rooftop party for you.

Homegrove

They plan to drive every Palestinian out of Gaza and take it for themselves. Still not genocide according to a few here.

zackster

Homegrove They plan to drive every Palestinian out of Gaza and take it for themselves. Still not genocide according to a few here.

C_J

Along_the_Wire I’ve noticed in The Times comments section that all the rabid right wing twats are against a ceasefire - all of them. I just don’t understand it at all.

It’s because they know that a ceasefire means Hamas survives which means another generation of people have to suffer the yoke of extremism.

If the brave Israeli soldiers can cleanse the land of terrorists, the Palestinians have a shot at a peaceful and prosperous future.

#NoCeasefire.

Along_the_Wire

C_J If the brave Israeli soldiers can cleanse the land of terrorists, the Palestinians have a shot at a peaceful and prosperous future.

That’s simply not going to happen ever. All this has already done is create a new generation of the next incarnation of Hamas and after another couple of months of this shit, it’ll be much worse next time round.

Homegrove

Woah. You’re out there in your own reality. You sound like a born again christian in the deep south of US.

Homegrove

Brave Israelis.

zackster

Homegrove and meanwhile

hugopal

Homegrove I’ve looked for any proof of this - you’d think if if was the case there’d be plenty of photos or video footage, but there’s absolutely zilch out there. Nada. Aside from the word of that one guy. Diddly squat.

Homegrove

Mad_Cyril

This thread’s gone to shit since the board’s moral compass and spiritual guru went awol.

#wherescanks

zackster

Crunkles MacJuggers has left us to join Unit 585. He was last seen crawling into a CT scanner suspecting it was a secret tunnel entrance.

Mad_Cyril

zackster He was last seen crawling into a CT scanner

Armed with an inflatable hammer

RichM

Along_the_Wire totally agree, some people seem to think Hamas is just a group of people that if you kill they are gone forever, rather than it being a movement that will just attract new members.

Have people forgotten about Al Qaeda and the US attempt at trying to eliminate that.

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