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Obummer making Joe relevant sucks so much.

Make no mistake, Donald Trump becoming Resident of the USA is beyond parody. You have to ask yourself how and why it happened in the first place - an electorate fed up by the same old shit on offer, being told how lucky they are to have it so good, whilst realising their quality of life is on a downward trajectory.

Banks get bailed out and the same regulators - completely complicit with the meltdown in the first place, are reappointed, whilst the taxpayer gets left to pick up the pieces. Public debts, private profits

How many in the US think Obama is the first gay president and married to a trans bloke, Zack?

    Hursty didn’t know Zack was a trans bloke. Makes sense thinking about it

      Hursty Not very many. However the whole Muslim from Africa thing seems to be a widely held belief.

        NPR polling has Biden +3 among registered voters, +7 among likely voters. If this is true/holds then Joe walks into his second term. Don’s campaign is spending all of its money on his legal bills, so it’s not a stretch to think that he will massively fumble the bag.

        zackster Obama doing nothing, out side of passing a Republican healthcare reform bill, with his super majority

        He ran on hope and change, was given the power, and did absolutely nothing with it. That was the moment for me that cemented how futile it is to expect anyone in politics to do better. The revolution won’t be televised because it isn’t going to happen until people are actually starving.

            303abuser He ran on hope and change, was given the power, and did absolutely nothing with it.

            Yep. I was so excited for his first term and didn’t vote for him in his second. Completely jaded me. I guess every generation has that moment, and his was surely it for me.

                zackster There’s just too much incentive for people in power to preserve it. Maybe AI or climate change will disrupt our social systems enough to make a meaningful difference, but I’m not optimistic.

                    303abuser after COVID I really dk what it will take for meaningful change. The fact that we came thru that with absolutely no renewed interest in national healthcare is absolutely insane to me.

                      And our right wing provincial government is actively taking steps toward the privatization of healthcare. There’s a total misalignment between individual political incentives and societal goals. It’s clear that unless people start holding our decision makers accountable, there’s no other mechanism that will.

                      Will be creamed to make $ for shareholders.

                      Talk of UBI etc seems to have faded into the background

                          Mad_Cyril When the labour market has been decimated and no one has money to buy anything, a solution will need to come from somewhere. You’re right the conversation seems to have disappeared, but I would assume it’s being discussed at a high level in some places. Maybe?

                            So once he wins the election, everything gets tossed, no consequences again, then we get to watch a shit show for four years, followed by a likely more successful coup attempt. Go America.