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This is going to be a wild election. It’s genuinely farcical to have Trump and Biden as the choices for the electorate. What a time to be alive.

The wheels are coming off in general - which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. People are starting to realise the shit show they have on offer and how whatever happens they are being fucked over to pay for it all.

Can’t say things are any better in the UK to be honest.

Viva la revolution.

But Trump is nailed on, lol.

Intrigued to see what impact RFK.has on the election.

I am still not so sure. The state level Repubs are doing all sorts of shit with their new found abilities to restrict access to abortion which is causing nightmares for Trump on the national level. Arizona is a state he needs and they just passed some stupid legislation that he was begging them not to. However, he isn’t cooked either. No one gives a shit about his court cases, Israel is a millstone around Joe’s neck, and voter turnout will probably be at a historic low.

    zackster No one gives a shit about his court cases,

    I think they actually do but not in the way they were hoping they would. The cases are clearly happening at a time to maximise the imapct on Trump’s ability to run a campaign for the election. They had years to bring and hold these cases, it’s no coincidence it’s all being done now and people aren’t stupid enough to fall for it. It’s all backfiring massively.

    When this is supposed to be news you know how badly you’re fucked as a nation :

      Americans being whoppers is still news?

      More rational balanced news:

      To be honest Fox are probably as bad, truth be told. But this is why legacy media needs to die and people are now turning away in their droves

      Trump must be prosecuted for holding classified documents in his possession (taken whilst he was President and he claims to exonerate him for when the US declares war on Iran - who knows?).

      Biden has classified documents in his possession from when he was Vice-President, but shouldn’t face prosecution because he’s a senile old man who won’t remember - whilst running to be President again for the next term: https://news.sky.com/story/joe-biden-wilfully-disclosed-classified-materials-but-president-not-charged-after-portraying-himself-as-elderly-man-special-counsel-says-13067069

      The whole thing is nothing but theatre. Whilst Trump is all over the front pages for his court case with hush money for Stormy Daniels, Congrss pass another bill for $61b of US taxpayers’ money to Ukraine (the last big payment passed during the Superbowl ginal - lol)

      The kickback of which eventually comes back to the likes of Blackrock & Vanguard, who are now essentially thr owners of Ukrainian infrastructure.

      The whole system is rotten to the core and for all his faults, you can see why people want to vote for someone who calls a lot of the shit out - he’s not the right person in my opinion, but I can see why he’s appealing to people

      Us taxpayer pays for it all to end up in private hands.

      In summay, I’ll leave the final word the the current POTUS:

      Obummer making Joe relevant sucks so much.

      Make no mistake, Donald Trump becoming Resident of the USA is beyond parody. You have to ask yourself how and why it happened in the first place - an electorate fed up by the same old shit on offer, being told how lucky they are to have it so good, whilst realising their quality of life is on a downward trajectory.

      Banks get bailed out and the same regulators - completely complicit with the meltdown in the first place, are reappointed, whilst the taxpayer gets left to pick up the pieces. Public debts, private profits

      How many in the US think Obama is the first gay president and married to a trans bloke, Zack?

        Hursty didn’t know Zack was a trans bloke. Makes sense thinking about it

          Hursty Not very many. However the whole Muslim from Africa thing seems to be a widely held belief.

            NPR polling has Biden +3 among registered voters, +7 among likely voters. If this is true/holds then Joe walks into his second term. Don’s campaign is spending all of its money on his legal bills, so it’s not a stretch to think that he will massively fumble the bag.

            zackster Obama doing nothing, out side of passing a Republican healthcare reform bill, with his super majority

            He ran on hope and change, was given the power, and did absolutely nothing with it. That was the moment for me that cemented how futile it is to expect anyone in politics to do better. The revolution won’t be televised because it isn’t going to happen until people are actually starving.

                303abuser He ran on hope and change, was given the power, and did absolutely nothing with it.

                Yep. I was so excited for his first term and didn’t vote for him in his second. Completely jaded me. I guess every generation has that moment, and his was surely it for me.

                    zackster There’s just too much incentive for people in power to preserve it. Maybe AI or climate change will disrupt our social systems enough to make a meaningful difference, but I’m not optimistic.

                        303abuser after COVID I really dk what it will take for meaningful change. The fact that we came thru that with absolutely no renewed interest in national healthcare is absolutely insane to me.