General Football Nonsense

Mad_Cyril

ScottBailey

RichM

Utd deserved that. As a Liverpool fan it has been funny Laughing Utds start to the season, but now table has turned. Focus is on klopp and the players as they have not performed yet. I know we have injuries, but we lacked all over the field. Such a poor performance.

Next game Bournemouth, we need to step it up to win, nothing is a given now. Klopp should have a word with Ten Hag on what to do!

Cankles-McJeggings

Can one of the kind unitard fans on here please explain to me why it’s the glazers fault they haven’t won the league in a decade? Because according to one of the retarded ‘fans’ outside the ground just on Sky news, this is the case.
He was also unhappy that he’s sick of lining the glazers pockets. Thats Abdul who cleans cars in Bury. Lining the Glazers pockets. 😂👍

ScottBailey

Cankles-McJeggings you’re obviously one of the belmets (a la Jamie Redknapp) that it too busy swigging on his Lambrini when G.Nev is stating the obvious..

Cankles-McJeggings

Have they not just funded 60million and 400k a week for a past it player? Did they scout him? Did they want to buy him? Or did the manager??

ScottBailey

Cankles-McJeggings you think that’s their own money, or borrowed money from the bank? Sounding like a lefty who’s maxed out their credit card on a new 50″ TV yet complaining it doesn’t work because they can’t afford the electric.

Cankles-McJeggings

Haha great.
Just seen Rashfords goal. Looked offside to me.

Edit - How the fuck is that not offside? 😂

seanc80

Cankles-McJeggings i thought the exact same but i think the line indicates someting different, i think we are looking at the line the wrong way lol

Cankles-McJeggings

What a twat. Try 19 points from 13 games. He’d have already been sacked by the filthy Russian.

bosstrabs

Mad_Cyril Puremong Spengerson

This is amazing

Mad_Cyril

bosstrabs This is amazing

I’m glad you liked it Dave, just been working hard on it

Cankles-McJeggings

Answer me this. Let’s just say in a parallel universe unitard had found a coach like klopp who won you a load of old trophies in the last decade. Say 2 champions leagues and 5 titles. Or even say Jose won you a load. Would you all be moaning and protesting outside the stadium? Answer - would you fuck. So it’s not about the owners it’s not about how it’s funded, it’s about the lack of trophies by substandard managers who’ve all had a team of world class players to work with.
If you’d had success there wouldn’t be a fucking peep out of you cunts. I don’t care what that scruffy little street urchin Gaz Nev thinks, that cunt is the epitome of failing at football management, what the fuck does he know? The dippers are in pretty much the same situation with FSG regarding owners. If there hadn’t been success they’d be doing exactly what you’re doing now. Success obviously temporarily excuses owners skimming off the profits. They’ll be up to the same shit sooner or later, protesting outside the ground when the perceived success stops (one title in 30 years). So you’re all just fickle cunts who are easily appeased at the end of the day. Happy when you’ve been given your success bitty to suck on to keep you quiet, but when the tit dries up you’re all there blarting. Demanding success like horrible entitled cunts.
The money has been there for you, the quality of players has been there for you. You bought them, you mismanaged them, you failed with them. Now lie in your fucking own shit and sleep in it. 🤮

vinnyt77

Cankles-McJeggings I just don’t think it’s as simple as laying the blame squarely at the Glazers’ feet, OR at the feet of the footballing staff.

I do think it’s fair to say that the owners have prioritised commercial performance ahead of football success. Ideally, one follows the other, but I just don’t get the sense the Glazers give a flying fuck about the football club itself, as long as it remains a cash cow for them.

Yes - there has been a lot of money available for transfers. Struggling to remember the last ‘great signing’ I can remember Utd making. Maybe the signing of Ibrahimovic back in 2016 on a free. The number of hideously poor signings in recent years? Immeasurable. We took a £100m bath on Pogba, £30m on Alexis Sanchez just to keep him out of City’s hands, £53 for Fred, £80m for Maguire, £50m for Wan-Bissaka. I don’t think Utd have added value to player (sold for more than bought) in the past 10 years or thereabouts. Might be wrong, but certainly feels that way…

Good managers have come and gone at Utd in the past 10 years. Strong characters like Van Gaal and Mourinho couldn’t get the club to work. You’ve got to ask whether they were really in control of the club’s spending policy. I don’t think the Glazers were sitting in the back office picking which players to buy. I do think they installed Ed Woodward as CEO, who was a fucking disaster for the club, and who oversaw some of the most pitiful transfer windows in the club’s history.

Fundamentally, the club is rotten, and the Glazers have to take their share of responsibility for that. A change of ownership doesn’t magically change the outcome for the club, but IMO it’s a necessary first step if Utd ever want to be a top performing club again.

ScottBailey

Cankles-McJeggings think @vinnyt77 has put it well into words. It’s a shared responsibility for sure and something people like Woodward and the players who have come, gone and or stayed have to answer for. But when you have owners who are a million miles away from the club (emotionally and litereally), just skimming it for profit, it shows a level of disrespect that’ll feed down the line. Hence forth why you get people like Pogba who keep coming for the money and trotting off when the shit hits the fan. There has to be passion and commitment to the cause from top to bottom. The Glazers offer none of that.

Cankles-McJeggings

vinnyt77

You didn’t really say if you were pro removing the glazers who are clearly the scape goats for lack of success. But a good reply all the same, It’s a convenient myth that the Glazers are solely responsible.
Dimbo fans outside the stadium believing they are lining billionaires pockets with a few hundred quid is illinformed and or completely delusional and from watching the news and listening to them getting interviewed that was what they all believed to be the case.
There wouldnt be a single complaint about how rich they were or how they were lining their pockets if they were top and just won the treble last season.

vinnyt77

Cankles-McJeggings For the avoidance of doubt, yes - I’m in favour of removing the Glazers. I don’t hold them fully accountable, but I think their style of ownership over the past 15 years is a significant part of the reason for Utd’s decline. It’s just too simplistic to lay it all on them. Yes, they saddled the club with £600m of debt, which cost £500m to service over a ten year period. Had Utd not had transfer funds during those ten years, then yeah - they’d be on the hook. Not the case though. The club has spent poorly, Underinvested in the club’s facilities, and allowed the academy system to falter.

In terms of ‘other’ scapegoats - Woodward’s gone, and Arnold seems to be better. The managers that under performed have gone. Ten Hag has started the lengthy clear-out of deadwood from the team, and will hopefully be given the time to fix some of the inherent problems with the squad.

And before it’s suggested that I have Ferguson tinted spectacles, it’s notable that some of the poor player investment started in the last few years of his tenure at the club. Smalling, Jones, Bébé, Young, Zaha - all recruited by Bacon Face, and they represent some of the high spots of our transfer activity in the past 10 years. Woeful.

Cankles-McJeggings

ScottBailey

Fsg don’t either.

mono-stereo

vinnyt77 Fair points. I think we have a tendancy to over intellectualise the game. Maybe the simple fact is that the fans have unrealistic expectations after years of dominance. The game moves on, rivals catch up and a clubs history has no real bearing on future performance.

Cankles-McJeggings

Fair response. You do not speak the same language or seem cut from the same cloth as the green and goldens who frequent interviews, forums and hys.

vinnyt77

Cankles-McJeggings Hopefully not. Any club has its share of dipshit cunts. Utd’s just seem to make it on to TV more regularly and more vociferously than others at the moment…

Cankles-McJeggings

seanc80

😂 Its fucking definitely off side. That’s the official var shot from the game . I paused it and screenshot it.

Wally

Cankles-McJeggings

Wally

Lol fuck me what a degenerate.

alistair

Wally Flock of Seagulls were so 1982

Phil-McRackin

Wally christ, he looks like someone from Oz who shoots kangaroos and fucks his sister. Probably the other way round too.

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