General Football Nonsense

Cankles-McJeggings

It’s hard to manage cunts no matter where you’re from.

bosstrabs

Southgate should not get fired because he’s actually the most successful England manager since Alf Ramsay.

(one World Cup semi-final and a European Championship final)

Only a truly dismal World Cup (failure to qualify from the group) should get him the chop at this point.

Cankles-McJeggings

Nah fuck that. He’s been lucky as fuck and failed not winning with that side. Akin to jumping into a Ferrari and not being able to drive it as fast as it’s capable of going.

bosstrabs

A side with Jordan Pickford, Harry Maguire, Eric Dier and Dele Alli (those 2 in the WC anyway), and Raheem Sterling as regulars?

I’d hardly say France or anyone else would be shiting it looking at the England side on paper.

Overperformed, not underperformed, in the World Cup and Euros IMO.

Along_the_Wire

bosstrabs Overperformed, not underperformed, in the World Cup and Euros IMO.

Played crap teams and lost to the first half decent one England played. Lost in appalling fashion too.

alistair

bosstrabs the Dele Ali of the early Southgate era was quality and so was Sterling in the last Euros

bosstrabs

Sven was utter dogshit (with a highly talented squad) and got 3 tournaments.

Roy Hodgson was utter dogshit and got 3 tournaments.

Not a blind Southgate defender, but if there’s any justice he won’t get binned off having had 2 much better tournaments than either of those two managed.

alistair

bosstrabs Agree with that. Sven massively underperformed with the quality he had at his disposal. They should have won a trophy and only got to ¼ finals

Cankles-McJeggings

All those managers had one thing in common. They were all dealing with arrogant Prima Donna wankers all hating on one another. I don’t believe this group of players are anything like the cuntage they had to deal with. This group are pretty down to earth and by all accounts get on really well.

Amps

It’s seeing the potential and then seeing it go unfulfilled or seeing it being stifled that’s so painful. You can’t help but think better managers would get better results with them.

Cankles-McJeggings

Just the negative defensive tactics with a full selection of attacking players alone should see Southgate hanged in public.

bosstrabs

Cankles-McJeggings Just the negativity in the tactics alone should see Southgate hanged in public.

He is highly negative, but that seems to have come about recently?

I do think he should play Trent A-A, waste of highly potent attacking threat if deployed effectively.

Amps

Cankles-McJeggings Just the negative defensive tactics with a full selection of attacking players alone should see Southgate hanged in public.

Thats the crux of it. Couldn’t care less about Trent, I understand the way he plays for us isn’t great for other systems, but the rest of the squad are massively capable.

Jules72

bosstrabs did you see the squad for these two games….. something like 50% defenders, which says it all really…

alistair

Perfect opportunity to play Trent (and Tomori) on Monday but instead of looking at what he can do (put the ball on a sixpence from anywhere and assist in more goals than anyone else), he will look at his perceived weaknesses

alistair

Amps fuck off about systems. That’s precisely the problem

Amps

alistair Go on, elaborate a bit.

alistair

Amps It’s self evident. England haven’t scored a goal in open play for five games so his system is no longer fit for purpose. Show confidence in a player whose raison d’etre is creating goal scoring opportunities. It’s not rocket science FFS.

Smallman1

Southgate will be shown the door after the world cup.

You heard it here first.

Amps

alistair Oh, sure. But you’re asking a leopard to change it’s spots. It’s not gonna happen under this manager.

baggers44

Jules72 Southgate is done and he knows it. he will just tread water until the inevitable ejection from the tournament when we are outpassed by a team worse than us on paper but actually operates as a coherent team. i hope i am eating my words tonight but we have such a ploddy approach i cannot see it.

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