The COVID-19 Blues

Old-Dutch

Mad_Cyril

Too late - my knickers are off. AND I HAVEN’T EVEN SHAVED MY FANNY

RichM

Old-Dutch not enough focus on this post.

Any pics?

Mad_Cyril

Old-Dutch Mmmm, baccy pouch

303abuser

Old-Dutch He won’t identify any causes of autism (ever, forget September) and he won’t deliver on anything broadly useful. That’s about as likely as Trump focusing on good government. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

Old-Dutch

Cool. Let’s see.

Bit of a crazy challenge to be honest

303abuser

There’s absolutely nothing in his background or accomplishments that indicates he’ll be successful, he’s only in this position as a quid pro quo for dropping out of the election to avoid siphoning votes from trump.

Old-Dutch

He’s already waging war on food additives, dyes, seed oils and comparing US food ingredients and practices to Europe and asking questions.

His predecessor might have thought to do the same

303abuser

We’ll see what results come, I expect nothing. Congress has passed maybe 5 bills since January 20th and then there’s net harm to consider. Look at his backtracking on his initial stance regarding the measles outbreak.

Old-Dutch

He’s got the gig now. He’s in the hotseat. Let’s see how he fares.

Not sure I follow the measles outbreak situation. What happened.

Was this his fault?

303abuser

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99n18zlzg3o

Basically started out saying the outbreak was normal and then reversed course. Also there’s this one …

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/how-rfk-jr-falsely-denied-his-connection-to-a-deadly-measles-outbreak-in-samoa/

Old-Dutch

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-measles-cases?time=earliest..2025

Looks like a few spikes in the last few years. Changing opinion as the situation moves is a good thing, no? Making it a priority as it gets worse is what you’d expect? Media loves to call it backtracking but he’s made a positive move to address a worsening situation

303abuser

Old-Dutch He’s anti-vax, said a measles outbreak was normal when it clearly wasn’t, then reversed course to indicate that maybe people should vaccinate their kids instead of having them just get sick and risk death. That’s not changing opinion as a situation develops, the science has been there for decades. He’s a moron.

Old-Dutch

Not bothering with the other article. Please quote me something of significance that isn’t opinion and I’ll happily respond

Old-Dutch

303abuser

How many people died from measles? Was it confirmed they died from measles?

Old-Dutch

Measles is a funny one to be honest. It used to be thought of as the common cold / flu. There’s some interesting charts in this link showing what improvements in sanitation etc. did to lower rates, prior to the vaccine.

https://www.hartgroup.org/measles-fearmongering/

303abuser

Old-Dutch For someone who seems like they’re firmly implanted in the “do your own research” crowd, you could just search the interwebs for this stuff. I’m not going down the the anti-vax rabbit hole, it’s a waste of time.

I’ll leave you with this … https://www.statista.com/statistics/1560955/measles-death-rate-in-the-us-since-1919/

The vaccine was introduced in 1963, do the math.

Old-Dutch

I’ve got my Japanese filter on so it’s all blury.

But if I turn around you can see my massive red ring

RichM

Haha

Old-Dutch

303abuser so it tallies with the UK data? Massively reduced deaths prior to the measles vaccine introduction ?

Old-Dutch

I’m not going to run around after you mate. Any child who dies is a tragedy - especially if it is preventable.

Can you answer the following questions and then I’ll engage.

How many children died from the measles outbreak in the USA you’re referring to.

What age were they?

What age should they have had the measles vaccine at?

303abuser

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

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