Most Enduring Commercial Mix Comps

Matty

zackster Matty the doozy was your list. I’m sure you do have excellent taste, but ur list was beyond off the mark.

What was wide of the mark. ? Without question some of the greatest comps that in many cases transition the years.

zackster

Matty The Tom Middleton mix is the only one I would say sounds even remotely relevant. Many of the others are indeed great but aren’t filled with what I would call “current sounds”. Please reread my initial post to better understand the RFQ.

Smallman1

I’m not sure anyone’s suggesting Oakey’s a brilliant mixer.

Quite the opposite actually.

Matty

303abuser

His YouTube channel shows have been a bit hit and miss, mostly the latter, although did enjoy some of his beach club sets as a guilty
pleasure.

I thought he was bound for greatness

303abuser

Matty he borders on almost pop music at times, can’t say i go out of my way to listen to him these days.

Matty

Smallman1 I put Henry Saiz in the same category as Guy J and High Earning Hernan Cattaneo.

Horrific.

I have to admit I see it differently Smalls, after 25 years of listening I’m loving the Hernan sound the past two years and especially his sets with Nick Warren.

I know I’ll get some stick from those that haven’t listened to it and this set from Barutana last year is one of the very best I’ve ever heard ;

https://m.soundcloud.com/blenderbelgrade/hernan-cattaneo-b2b-nick-warren-b2b-graziano-raffa-barutana-june-2019

Matty

303abuser

cant say I agree, I love the big prog sound with loads of melody and highs and lows.

I don’t think he’s transitioned well onto the mix comp CD for some reason except for the Renaissance Masters Series 17 which was superb.

Over the past few years though including his sets from Forja and the absolutely stunning set with Nick Warren at ADE he’s been the only DJ I get genuinely exciting to hear.

303abuser

alistair thanks, i’ll check that out.

Matty

303abuser Smallman1 if you still think gu007 is representative of good mixing, your opinion is basically worthless.

To be fair - the Oakenfold mix was recorded live (not the actual live set but a recreation in the studio which is how the GUs were done back in the day)

303abuser

Matty yeah and any professional that thinks that’s acceptable needs to give their head a shake. nick warren’s first few gu’s were mixed live too (with mixed quality) and were way ahead of this garbage.

Matty

303abuser yeah and any professional that thinks that’s acceptable needs to give their head a shake. nick warren’s first few gu’s were mixed live too (with mixed quality) and were way ahead of this garbage

Whilst I am a big fan of Nick Warren, it’s not right to compare his early mixes with New York. That mix is an absolute masterpiece and is the perfect time capsule of Oakley at his absolute finest. Say what you want about his technical ability and how he went off the rails from 2001, that set along with the 1999 essential mix world tour was a man at the peak of his powers and no one was near him at that moment, not even Sasha and Diggers.

303abuser

zackster can you point me to a link for that hawtin mixmag live thing?

alistair

zackster so Maceo Plex’s Fabric isn’t filled with current sounds…? It depends on what you listen to. I also think Sasha’s Fabric from two years ago sounds current today

Matty

zackster

depends on your definition of “enduring” I guess, which I understand to be “lasting over a period of time, durable”

I chose those mixes that I could go to time and time again and they still hit the spot as if they were fresh….I think I did well.

If we go back to your list then the Nick Warren mix is horribly dated and the mixing is terrible, it’s certainly not enduring but an OK mix at the time. The Dave Seaman mix from the series flowed better IMO

The coldcut mix whilst outstanding from a technical perspective isn’t particularly easy listening and is too much mismatch of styles and genres. I prefer the FSOL mixes from back in the day.

I suggest your critique has lost the intended spirit of your original post.

Matty

zackster

Enduring doesn’t mean current Zackster

zackster

alistair was that in Matty’s list? I thought you listed that.

alistair

zackster No. Just me picking up the wrong end of the stick again!

zackster

alistair As a far as me being a project reviewer goes, I am taking all of your (the board’s) work on a case by case basis. Using Matty as an example, I selected Tom Middleton’s Sound of The Cosmos as an instance of his having made a correct selection: I think it’s important to focus on the positive. Listing every single Sasha and Digweed mix is adorable in a “look dad I made dinner” which turns out to be pasta and chocolate sauce kinda way, but it doesn’t really work as an acceptable list. I hate to spoon feed everyone the guidelines, but I think it’s safe to say that submitting a 70 minute mix of tracks that doesn’t include a single 909 snare is probably a bad idea.

If you would like me to review your selections, I gladly will, but IDK how much insight I can offer, as I have not heard either. I think it’s safe to assume that they are both still relevant as they only a few years old. However, I would note that that is a rather safe maneuver, and yields a low score in the creativity category.

zackster

Matty I realized that this term was problematic early on, and would have happily changed if if the board’s functionality allowed for that to happen. I thought you could, but was unable to do so.

Smallman1

I thought the lack of prog mixes in Zackster’s top 5 was an absolute outrage if I’m being honest.

Dan

Smallman1 Pretty sure his neighbors would welcome some classic prog. It’d make a nice break from two cash registers smacking together!

303abuser

Matty argue oakey’s cultural/musical influences and how much you enjoy them and enjoy looking back at the time and place. that’s all perfectly reasonable. there are tons of old mixes that aren’t very good from a technical standpoint that i still love.

in the context of “enduring” though, 007 is a shit show of mixing and programming and doesn’t belong in the conversation. my first demo cd that i did after dj’ing for about a year is leaps and bounds above the quality of this mix (not saying it’s anywhere near as good or anything, just comparing technicals). i re-recorded it 3 times because of mixes i didn’t like and those were probably better than the best mix between any two records on this comp. from that perspective it’s awful, there’s no defending it.

Matty

303abuser in the context of “enduring” though, 007 is a shit show of mixing and programming and doesn’t belong in the conversation. my first demo cd that i did after dj’ing for about a year is leaps and bounds above the quality of this mix (not saying it’s anywhere near as good or anything, just comparing technicals). i re-recorded it 3 times because of mixes i didn’t like and those were probably better than the best mix between any two records on this comp. from that perspective it’s awful, there’s no defending it.

Were you there back in the day when it came
out or have you found it since. Excuse the question it’s just not easy to understand people’s age - background.

To your point when it came out it was just light years ahead of anything else at the time and seemed to carry its own magic in the same way Sasha San Fransisco did as if Sasha had returned from the wilderness. I think it’s that feeling for me that makes it so enduring as it takes me back to that moment, I imagine the same way it does for other appreciators.

There are a few mixes that have done that - I.e the other 9 mixes on my list.

I can’t comment on your own mixes having never heard them, but it you send me a link I’ll give you a whirl and let you know my thoughts.

303abuser

Matty that maybe true. i discovered him through the balance mix and haven’t really liked too much since then, so he just fell off my radar. plus i mostly listen to old man music now.

Dan

Matty One of my best nights out was Nick Warren playing for the TA Troops on the Thames.

Tremendous night.

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