bosstrabs we’ve lost a couple but not super close ones. But you’re right, I’ll moan like pet.
The General Covid19 Thread
[unknown] The SLUR ALEX BACONFACE of Scientific Advisors.
Lol!
[unknown] The SLUR ALEX BACONFACE of Scientific Advisors.
Lol!
[unknown] to be fair you could say the same about me and operations.
alistair macho!
NasserAlazzawi state of Britain’s trains now. All the incentive you need to beg your boss to work from home
alistair be even better if this was your boss!
Latest from Gauteng in South Africa… still very mild
Jules72 isn’t the age profile of SA very different to the UK?
Along_the_Wire It is. There are (apparently) some epidemiological reasons why the impact may be milder in South Africa as well - something about the timing of their Delta wave versus ours. Also worth noting the South Africa is coming out of Spring into Summer. Outdoor socialising / ventilated indoor venues aren’t just feasible, they’re the norm, and as a result ‘safe’ socialising and keeping distance are a whole lot easier.
Flip side of that is that the UK has a MUCH higher first and second dose vaccination rate, so if there does continue to be some protection against severe illness, hospitalisation and death from these jabs against Omicron (specifics yet to be proven), then that should stand us in good stead.
From what I’m reading, the UK should have an answer to the question, “How big a deal is Omicron?” in the week between Christmas and New Year, or perhaps the first week of January. Until then, it’s pretty much conjecture based on incomplete data. We’re not alone in the UK though - Denmark have similar vaccination rates to us, and are seeing similar spikes in Omicron cases on a per capita of population basis. Also like us, there’s not much strong evidence (yet) of the link between infection and serious illness/death etc…
Important caveat and why it’s important to wait another few weeks
vinnyt77 I don’t buy all the caveats around age, natural immunity etc -severe cases are just way too few in number relative to the delta wave … overcaution imo, which I understand but, at the same time, isn’t consistent with the evidence… and you can only make a neutral judgement based on the evidence you’re seeing
Had my work Christmas party last night.
London was absolutely packed to the rafters.
️Jules72 overcaution imo, which I understand but, at the same time, isn’t consistent with the evidence… and you can only make a neutral judgement based on the evidence you’re seeing
I think the point that many of the experts are stressing is that the studies and method of testing show that the evidence is far from waterproof. We’re seeing results of studies and looking at data in real time, its important not to make conclusions based on short term data and testing which isn’t clinical based yet. My guess is Govts are operating with worst case scenario models and all evidence is pointing to this thing ripping through populations and causing havoc for travel and the service industry despite the early data showing it being “mild”. Won’t make a difference to border control whether its mild or just the sniffles.
Idiot pal of mine sent me a video of people getting arrested in NYC because they refused to mask up etc, it came with the quote “slowly but surely our rights are being stripped.” Absolute bollox really, how many times did these fucks get stopped by bouncers because they were wearing trainers or the wrong shirt? They weren’t screaming about control or rights then. They just moved onto the next place. There’s hysteria on all sides amplified by social media.
Wales closing nightclubs again, is this really worth it? How many people actually go clubbing in Wales each week? I would really like to see any evidence closing nightclubs in a country of fields/mountains makes a significant difference