hugopal 2) "Controlling for time period, Omi hospitalisations roughly as likely as Delta hosp to become severe.
To me, this is showing that once in hospital, that’s a good sign your main immune defences have been breached, so at this point Omi and Delta broadly same in terms of outcome."
Spunked your load too early, Hugo, you pedantic cyst.
LT42 I didn’t say that the report didn’t say that - my question was, that why the heck out of all the information presented in the report which generally points to Omicron being less worth worrying about, you instead honed in on and chose that piece of information to be the thing you summarised from it and shared with everyone else?!
zackster LOL!
hugopal The point is that people who are hospitalised have had a severe breakthrough with outcomes similar to Delta (for those who believe its just the sniffles).
You’ve also left out the second part of my post which points to this possibily being the end of the pandemic.
Now fuck off on your pennyfarthing, you boring monotonous wanker.
LT42 The point is that people who are hospitalised have had a severe breakthrough with outcomes similar to Delta (for those who believe its just the sniffles).
You are aware that loads of old people with compromised immune systems have a “severe breakthrough” and die from both the flu and the common cold every year right?
LT42 You’ve also left out the second part of my post which points to this possibily being the end of the pandemic.
Well done, but given that then it makes your having led with the other less pertinent information seem all the more baffling.
No, whats baffling is how the fuck anyone could be as boring, monotonous and pointless as yourself. That’s my question, what’s the fucking point of you even posting other than to stand back in awe of your own amazing 10 page essays. What has been the point of your last 25 posts in this thread, really? You could’ve just said, “The Govt are overreacting, I read it in the Telegraph.” and saved countless people the pain and anguish of having to open the forum for a pleasing read with a cup of coffee and instead having to endure hydrochloric acid being thrown in their eyes courtesy of one of your self indulgent, convaluted shithouse posts.
If you only had, at the very least, just a sliver of self awareness it would give you the perfect synopsis of how utterly and unbelievably tedious you are. Who the fuck are you to question anybody on here?
LT42 LOL!
hugopal you’ve been striking optic nerves on a consistent basis for sure.
Every time you post I picture some cunt off Made in Chelsea with floppy hair and a lazy eye, blowing on his hands and diving for the keyboard. I mean, your name is fucking Hugo for God’s sake. That’s enough to set the alarm bells ringing.
Next time you find some interesting “data” in the newspapers, save to desktop, then print it off and stick it up your fucking hole.
LT42 I look at this for my job, so we’ve been looking into the trends in SA and Gauteng in a fair bit of detail… hospitalisations did go up perhaps even more steeply than delta. However, the gradient of ICU occupancy is less steep and, as you point out, the wave has topped so we will see hospitalisations and ICUs top out a lot sooner and a lot lower than delta. Given hospitalisations have been slightly steeper (than delta) but ICU numbers less so, that actually points to lower severity after hospitalisation.
Jules72 the findings in the paper are what they are, Jules. If it seems they’re pessimistic and don’t fit with your outlook, then that’s the reality. From the studies I’m seeing, every single take from the professionals doing them is to be cautious and not treat it like Covid is over just yet. Which is the right way to look at it imo. Everyone is fed up of the whole situation and frustration is rampant but it’s not game over yet. I’m positive by the way and believe this variant may be the last burnout, I’m just not taking my top off yet and think there’ll be more information to digest in the coming weeks in relation to where we are.
LT42 actually no… if you look at where it compares delta hospitalisations vs omicron hospitalisations, it says that, once hospitalised, severity is lower (factor 0.3) for the omicron infected vs delta infected … its bang in line with my view (The bit in the paper that drew the pessimistic conclusion was the comparison to all earlier waves)…
Delta vs. SGTF infection analysis (SGTF means Omicron)
From 31 March 2020 through 6 December2021, there were 1,734 hospitalisedpatientsfor whom variant information was available either by genomesequencing (non-variant, Alpha, Beta, Delta),or TaqPath PCR (SGTF, as a proxy for Omicronfrom 1 October through 6 December). Of these, 792 (46%) were infected with the Delta variantfrom 1 April2021 (week 13) to 9 November 2021 (week 45),and 212 (12%) with SGTFfrom 1October 2021(week 42)to6 December2021 (week 48) (Figure 2).Among hospitalised individuals, 90.8% (1,037/1,142) had accumulated in-hospital outcome by 21December 2021.After controlling for factors associated with severe disease, SGTF infections diagnosed between 1 October and 30 November 2021 compared to Delta infectionsdiagnosed between April and November 2021 had a lower odds of severe disease (aOR 0.3, 95% CI 0.2-0.5) (Table 3). In addition to geographical differences, other factors identified as associated with an increasedodds of severe disease included olderage[40-59 years(aOR2.2, 95%CI1.0-5.0)and ≥60 years(aOR3.8, 95%CI1.7-8.6),compared to 19-24 years]andhaving a co-morbid condition(aOR 2.8, 95% CI 2.0-4.0).Individuals aged13-18 years(aOR0.2, 95%CI0.0-0.8, compared to 19-24 years)and females (aOR0.7, 95%CI0.5-1.0)had a lower odds of severe disease
