LT42 Every time you post I picture some cunt off Made in Chelsea with floppy hair and a lazy eye, blowing on his hands and diving for the keyboard. I mean, your name is fucking Hugo for God’s sake. That’s enough to set the alarm bells ringing.

You’re mistaken, as is typical.

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      hugopal Perception is in the eye of the beholder. And you my friend, are a boring, monotonous, pretentious cunt. That won’t change whether the physical description of you is wrong or not.

        LT42 this FT chap is always publishing stuff at the pessimistic end of the spectrum… just saying

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            LT42 I look at this for my job, so we’ve been looking into the trends in SA and Gauteng in a fair bit of detail… hospitalisations did go up perhaps even more steeply than delta. However, the gradient of ICU occupancy is less steep and, as you point out, the wave has topped so we will see hospitalisations and ICUs top out a lot sooner and a lot lower than delta. Given hospitalisations have been slightly steeper (than delta) but ICU numbers less so, that actually points to lower severity after hospitalisation.

                Jules72 this is the hope, sounds like we will ride this one out ok 🤞

                  Jules72 the findings in the paper are what they are, Jules. If it seems they’re pessimistic and don’t fit with your outlook, then that’s the reality. From the studies I’m seeing, every single take from the professionals doing them is to be cautious and not treat it like Covid is over just yet. Which is the right way to look at it imo. Everyone is fed up of the whole situation and frustration is rampant but it’s not game over yet. I’m positive by the way and believe this variant may be the last burnout, I’m just not taking my top off yet and think there’ll be more information to digest in the coming weeks in relation to where we are.

                      LT42 I know one man who will be tops off front and centre on NYD, our very own Ed Smallman

                          LT42 actually no… if you look at where it compares delta hospitalisations vs omicron hospitalisations, it says that, once hospitalised, severity is lower (factor 0.3) for the omicron infected vs delta infected … its bang in line with my view (The bit in the paper that drew the pessimistic conclusion was the comparison to all earlier waves)…

                              Hursty Old Ledgy Bants and his mate Cuckold Low-T Bants (Zack) kitchen sinking it.

                                Delta vs. SGTF infection analysis (SGTF means Omicron)

                                From 31 March 2020 through 6 December2021, there were 1,734 hospitalisedpatientsfor whom variant information was available either by genomesequencing (non-variant, Alpha, Beta, Delta),or TaqPath PCR (SGTF, as a proxy for Omicronfrom 1 October through 6 December). Of these, 792 (46%) were infected with the Delta variantfrom 1 April2021 (week 13) to 9 November 2021 (week 45),and 212 (12%) with SGTFfrom 1October 2021(week 42)to6 December2021 (week 48) (Figure 2).Among hospitalised individuals, 90.8% (1,037/1,142) had accumulated in-hospital outcome by 21December 2021.After controlling for factors associated with severe disease, SGTF infections diagnosed between 1 October and 30 November 2021 compared to Delta infectionsdiagnosed between April and November 2021 had a lower odds of severe disease (aOR 0.3, 95% CI 0.2-0.5) (Table 3). In addition to geographical differences, other factors identified as associated with an increasedodds of severe disease included olderage[40-59 years(aOR2.2, 95%CI1.0-5.0)and ≥60 years(aOR3.8, 95%CI1.7-8.6),compared to 19-24 years]andhaving a co-morbid condition(aOR 2.8, 95% CI 2.0-4.0).Individuals aged13-18 years(aOR0.2, 95%CI0.0-0.8, compared to 19-24 years)and females (aOR0.7, 95%CI0.5-1.0)had a lower odds of severe disease

                                  Jules72 it seems as if someone has hacked Jules’ login.

                                    Jules72 have there been any papers, since all this began, that have had a 100% positive outlook? Asking for a friend.

                                      Nope just copied the findings… the FT journalist is full of shit…. What the study shows is that omicron is mild compared to delta either before you reach hospital or once you’re in hospital. The least optimistic finding (odds ratio of 0.7) is where they are comparing omicron severe cases post hospitalisation to delta at the end of its wave (when there was a lot of immunity present)… this is a hugely positive study

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                                        Fuck me the media in this country are a joke for the way they’ve tried to analyse Omicron

                                        Jules’ post looks like a Strudders formation post.

                                        LOL Oakland caved to business interests. No vaccine requirement until February 1st.

                                        Which is pointless.

                                        Jules72 this is a hugely positive study

                                        I agree which is why I think there’s light at the end of the tunnel. If he’s wrong (in your opinion) about the data in the paper then that’s not my problem to be fair. I’m not going to argue with anyone over factors of 0.3.

                                            LT rooting for a negative Omicron outcome just to win an internet argument.

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                                              Jules72 SGTF infections diagnosed between 1 October and 30 November 2021 compared to Delta infectionsdiagnosed between April and November 2021 had a lower odds of severe disease (aOR 0.3, 95% CI 0.2-0.5)

                                              Just checking my maths here… So these findings would suggest that in those that are hospitalised, with Omicron you’re 30% LESS likely to experience ‘severe disease’ and the 95% confidence interval is that it might be as low as 20% less likely, but might be as high as 50% less likely?

                                              Severe disease = hospitalisation? ICU admission? Something in-between?