The General Covid19 Thread

Funky

303abuser The variant is only here 2 weeks ffs, give it time and ill be here to remind you that you are a pretentious cunt. Credentials haha the same scientists that at the beginning said this was not leaked out of a lab and is conspiracy, yet is now being fully investigated.

I may not be as educated as many on here but i can call shit when i see it. To much fairy tale non sense on here and not enough reality.

mono-stereo

Funky The variant is only here 2 weeks ffs, give it time and ill be here to remind you that you are a pretentious cunt.

😅

zackster

Funky To much fairy tale non sense on here and not enough reality.

THIS

303abuser

Funky you’re a mess. you can’t follow a line of thought in consecutive posts.

how is waiting for evidence being pretentious? a cunt, maybe, but i don’t think i’m being pretentious.

bosstrabs

Funky give it time and ill be here to remind you that you are a pretentious cunt. C

LOL, great line.

mono-stereo

Put down of the year @Funky

Funky The variant is only here 2 weeks ffs, give it time and ill be here to remind you that you are a pretentious cunt.

Funky

303abuser You didn’t say you were waiting for evidence. You called me out for spreading misinformation its not quite misinformation if a CEO of Pfizer comes out and says a 4th vaccine maybe needed its an incline to what might be a head.

Acting that your better than someone is classed as pretentious you know esp if you put them down on education. Scientists do get influenced there is politics involved or is that to conspiratory for your fairy tale that the world is in perfect order with this virus.

303abuser

Funky i’ll say it slowly this time … there is no one credible recommending 4 doses of the vaccine a year. no one.

i’m not putting you down for a lack of education, i’m putting you down because you don’t have the slightest clue as to what you’re talking about, yet you’re willing to spread this bullshit to others who are just as ill informed and will do the same. that’s exactly how this anti-vaxx nonsense get perpetuated.

303abuser

Funky let me expand on my previous comment. you’re entire position is based on this vague notion of not trusting authority of any kind. governments, scientists, experts in their field.

i’m only smart enough to know that when i don’t know something (especially with a subject as complicated as human health and virology that people spend their lives studying), to trust people who are the best and most knowledgeable. it doesn’t mean their perfect or always correct, but that’s science. make decisions based on the best data available at the time. it’s not infallible, but it’s better than me thinking i know better.

every single time you’re presented with actual evidence that completely nullifies your position, you move the goalposts. you don’t care, we don’t know, it’s some other vague conspiracy, blah blah blah. that’s why it’s so difficult to converse with you about this. you simple don’t care about evidence.

Funky

303abuser I willl say again we are 2 weeks into the new variant it will take some time for them to research this obviously there still so many unknowns, how is me bringing up what a Pfizer CEO said about possibility of a 4th vaccine being needed to fight the new variant in anyway me being an anti vaxxer lol.

I have said prior im pro choice i already got 2 i’ve nothing against it but im against force, mandates and handing more power over to governments why are you lot so scared of that lol and why cant we have a non bias conversation about things without this aww you are an anti vaxxer Qanon’ist.

If you want everything anyone says on here evidence based and nobody can speculate a little well that is just a boring world and you are a boring person.

zackster

It is reasonable to think vaccines are safe and effective and also think Pfizer is a shit bag company.

303abuser

zackster absolutely.

303abuser

Funky Many survive this virus and have no long term effects, do we know any long term effects by taking 4 shots a year no we don’t. Heart inflammation is 1 in 50k but I’m sure that rises with 4 a year.

Just doesn’t seem right in my head getting 4 of those a year.

this is what you said, you directly indicated that there are potential consequences to a vaccine regimen that no one is recommending. you don’t know how to source or parse information.

that aside, what are we supposed to think when you repeat all of the exact same talking points as the anti-vaxxers and q annon? this is a perception you’ve directly cultivated. pro choice about the vaccine? yeah, that’s a stupid position and one that’s parroted by both groups you claim not to associate with.

Funky

303abuser Dude were is the proven evidence down the line? Also you can get virus and not have lasting effects I don’t get your point. Everyone in the free world are entitled to their opinion its called free speech.

I didn’t say the vaccine was dangerous but there is also some side effects no doubt about that.

The qanon thing has only been around a short time so to throw me in amongst that is ridiculous for me mentioning free speech, mandates and extra government control.

If your all for the above including wiping out free speech is for you then fair enough but I’m also entitled to have an equally different view just agree to disagree and move on. I’m not pushing anything on anyone and nor should you we are all grown ups here I thought.

Funky

303abuser Your living in fear man, nothing I’ve said is dangerous and some of it is reality your making out that you cant get covid and not have long term effects.

I will stop but you and a few need stop with the fear mongering, Disney shit.

303abuser

Funky Dude were is the proven evidence down the line?

are you asking me to predict the outcome of future vaccine trials?

Funky Everyone in the free world are entitled to their opinion its called free speech.

of course you are. that doesn’t mean what your saying is accurate in any way.

Funky I didn’t say the vaccine was dangerous but there is also some side effects no doubt about that.

the side effects are worse with covid than with the vaccines based on the current data and that’s indisputable.

Funky The qanon thing has only been around a short time so to throw me in amongst that is ridiculous for me mentioning free speech, mandates and extra government control.

Funky The qanon thing has only been around a short time so to throw me in amongst that is ridiculous for me mentioning free speech, mandates and extra government control.

regardless of how long q anon has been around, you’re talking points align very well. whether or not you know where the orgin of your words lie is irrelevant. there’s a good chance a misinformation campaign is the answer.

Funky If your all for the above including wiping out free speech is for you then fair enough but I’m also entitled to have an equally different view just agree to disagree and move on. I’m not pushing anything on anyone and nor should you we are all grown ups here I thought.

at no point have i said you’re not entitled to free speech or your opinion. i’ve only pointed out how misguided many of your opinions are and how dangerous they can be when they are propagated amongst millions of ill-informed people through tech platforms (facebook, twitter, etc) who’s only motive is for you to spend more time on them, regardless of the impacts to society.

Mad_Cyril

We’re actually doomed (again)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/10/stringent-uk-covid-measures-needed-within-a-week-leak-reveals?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

alistair

Mad_Cyril says Neil Ferguson. If only he chose my lottery numbers!

zackster

Not a mask in sight

Along_the_Wire

I’ve just cancelled a ski trip for a mate’s 50th next week. A little pressure from the misses, but I can’t believe it’s going ahead - everyone’s got kids and you won’t get back for Christmas if you test positive. It’s not as if ski resorts were any kind of catalyst in early 2020, is it?

zackster

Another tasteless jab at Ed’s COVID ski trip. Move on already.

jonattonyeah

I’m back on Covid duty. Two days a week. Tracking vaccinations in homeless and people living in SRO hotels.

Fun.

zackster

jonattonyeah any change in view on Omicron or still just get jabbed and get on with life?

jonattonyeah

zackster

We’re a little concerned just because of the time of year. Holidays and all that. But if you’re vaccinated you should be fine. With a booster almost certainly. The people who should be worried are those not vaccinated. Even then, the likelihood of hospitalization is pretty low. This variant, around here anyway, is quite contagious but not very virulent.

That said, special lady friend attended a restaurant closure for one of her friends on Wednesday. Two positives from there already. She’s getting a PCR tomorrow morning. She’s vaccinated. Dunno about the others. She’s Black and many of her friends are also. We’ve done great with their vaccination rates in SF, but the East Bay hasn’t been so successful with that demographic. The reasons for have been said here many times already so no point in repeating them.

C_J

jonattonyeah if you’re vaccinated you should be fine. With a booster almost certainly. The people who should be worried are those not vaccinated. Even then, the likelihood of hospitalization is pretty low. This variant, around here anyway, is quite contagious but not very virulent.

Interesting line JY. The old “you’re unlikely to die yourself ergo fill your boots” take.

Not saying I disagree as such, but the (prevalent) counter-narrative would be “if we all go around jabbed up and fancy-free we’ll generate such a rapid explosion of cases that even a minuscule hospital rate will crush the nations defences”

And why does no one ever spare a thought for the people who can’t take a vax for genuine medical reasons?! My goodness those guys are fucking fucked, right?

Essentially we are back to my previous proposition, i.e. all that vaccines really do is lower your personal risk enough to make you behave in a way that is massively problematic at the population level.

Personally I think it’s zoom calls 4 life and permanent, government-mandated estrangement from one’s fellow man that will solve this crisis, not the tinctures and potions of some craven pharmacists.

Anyway, got to go, got a big party to attend tonight, catch you all later.

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