The General Covid19 Thread

rhouses

Jules72 No side effects, besides being lightly groggy some mornings. Even though not physically addictive, it certainly started feeling like I was getting dependent on it. Also, increasing the dosages as usage got more regular. If you need a hard reset on your sleep cycle, because you’re jetlagged or you had a couple of wonky late nights, I’d definitely recommend melatonin.

Magnesium is different because it has a lot of other benefits - muscle relaxant, great for the heart, definitely not as addictive mentally, and this might be subjective, but the sleep feels more natural. Can’t recommend it enough.

I take this tablet once a day about an hour before sleep:

303abuser

rhouses does the magnesium citrate not turn your stomach inside out?

Jules72

rhouses personally do feel groggy after a melatonin…. I think the “addiction” is psychological - thinking that you need it to sleep and you’re less relaxed if you don’t take one.. sleep therapists all say the best way is to stay off the meds completely, although melatonin is pretty harmless … anyway I’m giving magnesium a try - HTFF etc etc .. we should have a separate thread on health stuff I reckon - there’s loads of stuff I could be pasting on there

rhouses

303abuser naaah. But I like to think my tummy is fairly tough after a lifetime of Indian food and spices. I also do isabgol (every other night), psyllium husk, so my digestion in general is mostly governed by that.

BlainSA

bosstrabs RDAs are sometimes way off maximum safe usage. Sometimes they don’t actually know and are just putting their best guess.

rhouses

Jules72 Yeah that’s exactly it, mostly psychological, but thankfully kicking it isn’t trouble at all. I’m still a big fan of melatonin but in moderation.

Hope the magnesium works for you, glad I’ve started it and hoping it does some good in the long term.

Mad_Cyril

bosstrabs Oh, and they both gave me a noticeably slower heartrate which I didn’t really feel comfortable with - nothing extreme, but I remember thinking “that’s a bit fucking weird” and not liking it.

Deduction - Dave is struggling to rouse ‘little Dave’.

Am I right?

bosstrabs

Mad_Cyril Deduction - Dave is struggling to rouse ‘little Dave’.

Am I right?

Not since I ‘spoke to Frank’

alistair

So all remaining restrictions, including the legal requirement to self-isolate will be scrapped in the UK at the end of the month. Something similar to flu after all 😉

alistair

rhouses just don’t take it to get back to sleep when you wake up in the middle of the night mate. You will wake up at 5 with terrible flatulence and needing a huge shit half an hour later

Jules72

rhouses yeah when I had serious insomnia during my divorce a Harley street sleep expert told me melatonin is the only drug he typically recommends for the condition (other than light anti depressants)… he said btw if you just need to get to sleep then you should chew as opposed to swallowing (this is the slow release melatonin that is sold in the U.K. )

303abuser

rhouses fair enough, i know some people are ok with it, but it functions as a laxative for most.

Mad_Cyril

303abuser
Glad you flushed this detail out.

If it functioned as a laxative for Rhouses I think we’d all be in the shit.

rhouses

303abuser I’m gonna try the magnesium glycinate for my next batch. Just to see the difference.

303abuser

Mad_Cyril that was my concern, the well being of everyone within smelling distance.

rhouses

Jules72 All sorts of different ways to consume melatonin now. Heard about the chews, and there are also patches that you can stick on.

Funnily enough that’s also how I got introduced to it, went through a rough break-up with my wife when we were dating, terrible insomnia, and my dad put me on them. That first time was mind blowing, how the whole body suddenly goes all warm and fuzzy, and boom you’re out.

zackster

Learned of three people who all died of COVID today. All family and friends of work colleagues. 2 were unvaxxed and in their mid 50s and 70s. A mother and son. The third was 80 and triple jabbed. I totally get people being done with this. I know I am. However the complete denial and general annoyance of those who have either managed to dodge it or have come out of an infection unscathed is fucking revolting. The whole Omicron is less lethal argument may very well be true, but it certainly doesn’t feel accurate. This wave has hit my area so fucking hard.

303abuser

zackster whole Omicron is less lethal argument

it’s only true compared to delta, it’s significantly worse than pre-delta strains.

and thank you for the perspective. i don’t care who you are, you don’t want covid. maybe you get lucky and it’s mild, maybe you don’t. as one of the unlucky lottery winners, take my word for it.

zackster

303abuser it’s only true compared to delta, it’s significantly worse than pre-delta strains.

Who knows what strain they all had, but Omicron seems a safe assumption. Based on the eye test it sure seems like we did better with Delta. As media both local and national crow about the end of this wave it just feels like things are just getting worse. Just one man’s experience, but for the past 3 weeks I’ve been getting rocked with bad COVID news, of which your own personal experience is an example.

303abuser

zackster i agree with all of that. i only knew a handful of people who had covid prior to december, now i know more people who’ve had it than not. our hospitals are still overwhelmed, icu numbers are climbing daily, and our province just caved to the truckers and tossed out all restrictions and are pretending it’s over.

i’m all for being done with this and gradually removing restrictions, but it needs to be based on the health of the healthcare system. i’m really not sure what to expect from the next few months.

Along_the_Wire

I know only a handful of people that haven’t had it now and our hospitalisations are falling massively. This’ll happen in Canada for sure

303abuser

i’m sure it will, but we’re close to a month behind the uk. icu rates are climbing here and we’re still using converted beds from the provincial children’s hospital (the one that provides care for major childhood illness and disease) as overflow. all non-life and limb surgeries are still on hold and we have a 2 year backlog. i think we’d do well with not removing restrictions on the unvaccinated until that’s sorted out.

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