Dubman

It’s really not worth confronting people over mask compliance. The people refusing to wear masks are not abiding by our collective social contract with each other. I would expect other deviant behaviors like violence from them.

      jonattonyeah yeah finally coming around to this - I find it hard because if we all cop out then they get away with it. If a lot of people told these fckers off I’d be ok with it, but it’s a lonely battle… so I’m out. Reason the poor bloke above got dinged is because the authorities are not doing their job.

      Ultimately you will be safe if you distance. So if one of these dicks sits near you, walk away. Doing that a lot now. In any case the spike in Italy is probably telling us that masks alone don’t work - so going forward I’m just keeping 2m plus away from strangers on transport,
      mask or no mask.. wayyyyy too much covid around right now.

          Jules72 Reason the poor bloke above got dinged is because the authorities are not doing their job.

          Exactly. Unfortunately, this whole process has really been eye-opening. The authorities can only be in so many places at a time. We really rely on people doing the right thing simply for the sake of it. Not much one can do if somebody else just doesn’t care. We really have a lot of people who not only don’t care, but now consider their lack of consideration as something spiteful, something to be thrown in the faces of others. It’s embarrassing, really.

              jonattonyeah Yeah hopefully we get the right outcome next week on your side of the pond and start to push back

                The media is obsessed with leading us into another national lockdown, irrespective of the damage it will wreak to peoples’ lives, livelihoods and physical and mental health.

                  alistair
                  It’s not just the media. I know somebody who works for a national newspaper and I said to him that the media is making it worse by stirring things up. He said the government leak things to the media to test the waters before releasing a measure or statement.

                      Dubman Kay Burley’s interview with Jenrick on Sky was simply her haranguing him on when we are going into a national lockdown simply because some other countries are.

                        Kay Burley is a truly awful individual.

                        Personally think a short sharp lockdown (done the right way) would be the right balance… look at Israel - their 3 weeker brought cases right down. Issue is no one will follow the rules here - Dominic Cummings was a watershed moment in the handling of this crisis - and we don’t have the army Israel have to police the measures.

                        I am pretty convinced though that it’s schools that are behind the transmission - Asia (eg Korea) have been shutting them at regular intervals, but here they refuse to do so. I understand the rationale but it also therefore seems pointless to implement too harsh measures if you are keeping them open.

                          Hope any changes comes after Saturday so I can go to the boxing.

                          Jules72 I can imagine Korea’s kids have a full virtual school time table unlike here. Closing schools has terrible educational impacts for your average UK state school kid., not to mention the effects on future social mobility. The cure can’t be worse than the disease. One thing the lockdown experience did teach me (no pun intended) is that full time workers like my wife and I can’t be full or even part time teachers to a 14 year old.

                              I don’t think many media channels are pro a national lockdown. Maybe Sky and other TV as it boosts their audiences, but ad revenue will go down the shitter.

                                Rip. The other chuckle brother died not long ago too. Bad times if both are now gone to the big comedy club in the sky.

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                                  alistair I hear you… but how do you evaluate the trade off? Let’s say the spike in cases is to a reasonable extent driven by schools, and let’s say you lockdown for a month and it saves 2000 lives (We are probably looking at 10,000+ dying here over the next month from Covid so I think you would be saving more than 2k lives)… I’d have thought that’s worth locking down for don’t you? (I know some will say some of those people would have died anyway due to conditions but still…)