The General Covid19 Thread

zackster

Employers need to make the vaxx mandatory.

LT42

hugopal

LT42 those numbers aren’t that large - about 30 children in England and Wales die of the flu every year, yet people don’t go around demanding kids get flu jabs.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/970800/influenza-deaths-by-age-and-gender-england-wales/

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Funky

zackster If the jab reduced the spread, I would see the point of vaccine passports but it doesn’t so its retarded and again showing how fkn controlling and idiotic governments are.

LT42

Funky maybe one of the docs on here would be better placed to explain in detail but in layman’s from what I’ve read - the vax boosts the immune system which in turn reduces viral load, this in turn makes it less likely that those in a highly vaccinated group would be infected enough to contract the virus, or if they did they would be asymptomatic, therefore slowing transmission and thus creating herd immunity. Which is why it’s so important to stop signing into Facebook and get the fucking vaccine. If people would prioritise general health over clubbing then we’d all be clubbing quicker together.

Along_the_Wire

Funky vaccines reduce the spread by 40-60%

Funky

Along_the_Wire Sources? I’d like to believe that but there is no chance its anywhere near that with the delta maybe the Kent.

LT42

Funky the scientific term used in transmission “Shedding” (passing on infection) - vaccines have been proven to reduce viral load, the shedding is reduced in groups of vaccinated people. Look at the current statistics on the virus, unless you believe Bill Gates or the Rothschilds control the statistics?

Funky

LT42 I am doubled jabbed mate and my belief at the beginning was this was the route out of this but unfortunately were I am the cases are really high and many testing positive are single or double jabbed.

From what your saying the vaccine is not doing its job good enough to reduce transmission when it comes the delta variant especially and were am the end the restrictions are a long way off if ever, so I feel conned tbh.

I am not necessarily a fan of putting experimental jabs into my body, it’s certainly should be a choice for many considering the time it has took to develop there is nothing ridiculous about that far from it.

Jules72

hugopal nutcase .. the problem with a lot of the things you’re saying eg it’s just flu, is that your statements are (as yet) unproven. You are coming out with views that are formed based on your biases or politics, rather than clear evidence.

hugopal

Jules72 the problem with a lot of the things you’re saying eg it’s just flu, is that your statements are (as yet) unproven. You are coming out with views that are formed based on your biases or politics, rather than clear evidence.

Deaths from flu in a typical season in the UK are genrrally about 8,000, but they can go much higher eg in 2017/18 they were 22,000.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/annual-flu-reports

Even at just 8,000 that equates to an average of 154 deaths per week across a year.

Currently the rolling weekly average for covid deaths in the UK is only 64 - despite the huge case numbers there have been recently.

I can’t find where I saw another similar breakdown of the figures, but it’s not difficult from that observation to extrapolate that the mortality rate from covid is now similar to that from flu, and if anything is more likely to be slightly lower.

Along_the_Wire

Funky were I am the cases are really high and many testing positive are single or double jabbed.

If you read this thread regularly, you’d know that’s what to be expected. Cases really don’t mean an awful lot, it’s hospitalisations and deaths. Vaccines are very much doing their jobs.

LT42

Funky so effectively what you’re saying is (and what the larger argument seems to centre around) is your disappointment that you have to show proof of vaccination when entering an establishment, a vaccination which you already have and also you’re a bit annoyed that others have to do it or that their right to infect people if they want is being infringed on, because let’s face it that’s what it boils down to - people don’t want to show proof that they’re vaccinated, they want to be able to go to a club, vaccinated or unvaccinated, and keep their infection status a secret thus endangering those around them and potentially continuing the cycle of infection and mutations so that the end is never in sight. Correct me if I’m wrong but that about covers the height, breadth and length of it.

alistair

Funny the talk of vaccine passports when case numbers have dropped by 50% in a week and there are no restrictions but hey, Boris is fucking pissed he’s had to isolate for 10 days. The government would have been delighted with the vaccination take up rates in January. Threatening to deny students in person lectures when they haven’t had any for two years (and are still paying full whack) is pathetic

Mad_Cyril

alistair Are you OK Al?

IndustryStandard

Along_the_Wire This. It’s simple. If your health warrants you getting a vaccine, get a vaccine. All talk of politicizing vaccines, masks, covid passports, test results, blah blah blah…….gets right on my wick. We all need to work together, fuck politics and get through this mess.

Along_the_Wire

Mad_Cyril Alistair clearly has a son who’s a student.

alistair

Mad_Cyril All good chez moi after last week’s holiday. Have a good one in Cyprus. Loved it when I last went to Limassol

Homegrove

Jesus Hugo and Funky are thick. Stupid and stubborn, the most wonderful of combinations.

Funky

Homegrove Thick for not feeding off everything from MSM yeah good one.

Have an open mind take everything you hear from media and governments with a grain of salt aye thats the thick approach fkn hell.

Along_the_Wire

Funky LOL

I think people that share similar views to you DF, tend to be people with too much time on their hands and spend all day gathering as much utter tripe as they can online.

Jules72

Lol this thread is getting spicy 🌶

Mad_Cyril

alistair Good to hear brother

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