Fucking lol!

What a brilliant address!

Jules72 that’s not what the article says

I took it from table 2 of the CDC article I posted - influenza mortality rate. Looking again I might have actually misread the table slightly (for once) to be fair, the tedium of having to repeatedly field these questions must have got to me.

However, even using the basic aggregated data though on the total population level with the 34000 flu deaths that’s still about 103 flu deaths per million per year, vs the 9 vaccinated covid deaths per million per c. 2-3 months as of 2 weeks ago.

The 103 per million figure will also still be too low for a direct comparison to the mortality rate of vaccinated people, as the vaccinated cohort will skew much older than the total population in those flu numbers. Flu mortality is considerably more still in older people, so it would still be reasonable to at least say double the 103 figure to make the group counted more comparable to the covid vaccinated group.

Jules72 what is this number… deaths over what timespan? You are probably using data from pre-delta spike?

It’s as of 31 July.

Jules72 so US covid deaths are trending up and currently 500 a day…if the proportion of those that are vaccinated is similar to the U.K., then that might approx be 300 a day… so that’s more than 100k annualised vs the roughly 30k figure for flu deaths

Except those deaths will be more likely amongst the unvaccinated population.

    Grant will be delighted

    hugopal sure it will but I’ve given you an estimate of the current annualised run rate of vaccinated deaths… anyway your figures (9 per million deaths) are pre-delta… similar to the majority saying it’s just flu, your argument is bloody leaky!

    Just a caveat here - leading Yank scientists (among them Eric Topol and Peter Hotez) have been lambasting the communication by the CDC lately, it’s not up to date with current research, lacking in detail and in need of an overhaul. Plus obvious influence by the Govt in blunting the “optics”.

    zackster

    I’m far more than ok at all times! Head never hangs!

    Well not so much today. Not feeling great so have a rapid test on the way. If I test positive, on my birthday no less, I’ll be livid.

    Negative, thankfully. Guess I just have a bad summer cold which is basically the flu which is the same as Covid so I don’t even know what to think anymore.

      Are the numbers still dropping in the UK? Too lazy to check myself. I’m getting my second jab finally on Friday, and will go on a pub crawl on the 3rd of September barring an act of god. Can’t wait to be fully vaxxed.

        Homegrove Are the numbers still dropping in the UK?

        No idea but the shackles are properly off and we are all systems go.

        Pubs, clubs and football stadiums are all open at full capacity and all absolutely rocking.

        This weekend I’m off to The Oval for the Eliminator for my birthday on Friday, going to see The Streets at the Crystal Palace Bowl on Saturday and then heading to the Emirates on Sunday to see Arsenal v Chelsea on Sunday.

        Cannot wait.

        Homegrove No - not dropping. But not rising quickly… They’ve been hovering around the 20k-25k mark for the past couple of weeks. Daily deaths have been starting to increase though. Think yesterday was up at nearly 200, which feels pretty high…

          Along_the_Wire Yeah - looks like the 7 day rolling average is v slowly increasing. Roughly 65-70 at the end of July vs 85-90 now…

          Felt a bit strange not wearing a mask in a shop yesterday for the first time since last march.