IndustryStandard The likes of Jules / Tall Pall / Oakenfold by late 90s/early 00s were pushing credibility to a degree, but compared to Aoki/Guetta or whoever the big EDM headliners are it’s no comparison .

What was that festival in the midlands with the Bedrock tent circa 2004 ? Up the M1 . Homelands ? That was the first time I noticed a divide at a “festival” between house heads and a commercial set. Remember watching Oakenfold for a bit closing it out and thinking WTF happened to him . All Jesus poses and turd house.

I think the turning point started happening around 1999 to be honest.

Suddenly all the squares you knew from school were starting to turn up at places like Cream and Sankeys. People who a couple of years previously were wearing shiney shirts and shoes (or the female equivalent) into chart music and ridiculed such places and their crowds as being ‘for druggies’ were suddenly there in combats and t-shirts ‘havin’ it’.

The schism just grew bigger from there.

      bosstrabs the squares from school🤣

      too right though. Funny how it went from druggies/ravers to suddenly respectable . Same crew that now bang on about those awful Pete Tong/Hacienda concerts as ““taking them back ” . Please…..most in attendance were too scared to go to a decent club, frequenting the local Ritzy and dancing to Encore Une Fois instead and going to Tenerife instead of ''Beefa

          I heard a bloke describing Pete Tong’s classic orchestra as “life-changing”. I nearly hit the cunt

            IndustryStandard Exactly, it was remarkable how the same knobs who were drinking alcopops (Hooper’s Hooch and Reef seemed to be the popular ones around here) in Mr. Smiths almost overnight were banging on about what a ‘choon’ Gouryella was (and other such pish at the saccharine-sweet end of trance).

              a month later

              Not very surprised by this. Daniel Wang has back pedalled quite drastically on his post about Gou.

                Lol, absolute tatters!

                They’ll be up in arms in BERKgain

                  That kid looks like he’s been threatened.

                  I’ve dealt with people who were exactly as he described and he’ll have gone through a lot more than he lets on.

                  I could be wrong but if I were a betting man I’d say from the way he posted originally he was actually being truthful.

                    NasserAlazzawi That kid looks like he’s been threatened.

                    I’ve dealt with people who were exactly as he described and he’ll have gone through a lot more than he lets on.

                    Oh yeah for sure.

                    Anybody who’s spent significant amounts of time in East Asia knows how things work. It sparks a test of ‘guanxi’ (I’ll make you know, somehow, that MY people are stronger than YOURS, even if it goes on behind the scenes, even if you’re right and I’m wrong).

                    I know she’s Korean, but their culture is derived from Chinese

                      Homegrove her lawyers blatantly got on the case. No joke.

                      “I fully retract everything I said and which I knew was untrue” - no one writes like that normally.

                      New name: Peggy Sue.

                          I hope he sent that via his SAMSUNG