the production thread

303abuser

Amps Share some of those, it’s a good way to get feedback and insight. It’s tough to properly hear your own work at times.

Amps

303abuser No.

loopdokter

303abuser Share some of those, it’s a good way to get feedback and insight. It’s tough to properly hear your own work at times.

Don’t be shy. Throw a few things up. We’ll be constructive but not cruel.

303abuser

Amps Haha you’re stubborn.

Morty-C-137

It’s all one big learning experience Amps. For all creatives all the time. It never ends.

apyssjw

Unbroken1 , it’s the finishing off part that I struggle with 😅

Yeah. There is no finish, only acceptance that its time to work on something else.

Unbroken1 I’m also really lacking in confidence when it comes to mixing/mastering, but have had really varied results when I’ve involved other people

Remember reading an interview with disclosure I think where they were saying that it doesn’t really make sense to get someone else to mix an electronic track because so much of the/your sound is in the processing. I guess that’s where your previous studio partner’s skills came in.

I’m a relatively recent convert to using reference tracks. Taking a track I know is a good mix and a/b-ing it to see where in the frequency range that track hits and work back from there. A/B metric that 303 posted about a year or so ago has been a big help for that.

303abuser

Metric AB is one of a few plugins I use on every track, I can’t stress enough how helpful it is. Throw in someone you trust for mastering and that’s all you need to sound reasonably polished.

I totally agree with not having someone else do the mixing when you’re already doing all the sound design and arranging. Maybe if you have one person who works on every track with you, but even then, 90% of it should be done while composing.

Morty-C-137

Track referencing is a good sanity check.

ArchimedesQ

OK, I’ll put something up there to get shot down - any feedback welcomed

Mad_Cyril

ArchimedesQ
A lot to like there Pete.

I know fuck all but that noise on every 4th beat is a little distracting to me…

As an 8 beat sequence the even beat noise is shorter than odd beat noise, so drags my ear away during various passages of the track, taking a little away from some really good bits.

Admire any of you creating something from nothing so thanks for sharing

303abuser

ArchimedesQ Lot’s of good things there, nice job. Really like the groove from 0:30 to 1:30 or so. I made a few quick notes. If you want anything more detailed, dm me and I’d be happy to go through it in ableton.

white noise snare sound is a bit high in the mix, maybe a bit dry
the acid sound that comes in around 30 seconds would do better with less width or less of the ping/pong delay (I find the phasing a bit distracting)
when the lead synth comes in around 2:30, it masks the kick a bit
i’d mess around with making the break at 4:07 quieter; maybe take out the hats/snare, add more reverb (that’s all just an artistic choice though)
to add to the point above, the mix is really busy; that’s great if it’s what you’re going for and works well on headphones; for a club track, it may need to be simplified a touch, but that’s not exactly my area of expertise

Morty-C-137

ArchimedesQ I like that vibe. Keep going making tracks!

I agree with some of the things that 303 abuser pointed out. The snare poking out too much being one. To add: be gentle with eq in the high end. Right now things can get fatigued when that much 8-10k is in the percussion. Often if your missing top end clarity, cleaning up the mids, low mids and bass will do the trick more naturally.

Regarding the super wide bassline: whit a prominent and driving element like that, do always check in mono if the sound still retains its impact and clarity and not disappearing on you.

ArchimedesQ

Mad_Cyril cheers MC, thanks for the feedback, it’s all learning for me at the moment, just experimenting with different sounds and plug-ins

Mad_Cyril

Amps So, just so I have this right in my head, kicks on one track, snare on another, claps on another etc? Each piece of percussion gets it’s own separate track? Then, group / send them to a glue compressor or the like when you are happy with it?

This should help mate, right up your Strasse too

Amps

Mad_Cyril Informative stuff. Fame and fortune awaits. Imagine how many Lacoste trackies I can buy if I master ‘the donk’?

Mad_Cyril

Amps
You’ve got to reach for the stars mate

ArchimedesQ

303abuser AH, that’s great feedback mate, just what I was hoping for!! Thanks. I will take it all on board and have a little play with it. My biggest problem is finishing tracks, I end up with a few tracks like this that need things sorting out and never quite get round to getting them exactly as I want them, or I haven’t got the necessary skill or knowledge to put them right, so they get left in the ‘to be finished’ pile. So far there are about 50 in there ffs

303abuser

ArchimedesQ You’re welcome, feedback is the best way to learn (even if it’s from someone like me lol). I’ll say the same thing about finishing tracks that I said to amps: the best thing to do for now is finish everything. It’s a muscle you need to develop and you’ll never learn to polish a mix unless you do it repeatedly. It helps to get your processes and templates in order while you’re working on ideas that probably aren’t that good, so that when you do have good idea for tracks, that skill set is already there.

Morty-C-137 Regarding the super wide bassline: whit a prominent and driving element like that, do always check in mono if the sound still retains its impact and clarity and not disappearing on you

@ArchimedesQ This was the main reason I said I’d go through it in ableton if you were inclined. I wanted to check the bass to see how wide it was and if it was causing issues. Mono is important if you’re writing tracks for club systems. I’m a bit liberal with it, but I aim my music at more of a home listening/headphone environment.

ArchimedesQ

Morty-C-137 Thanks pal, noted. I rarely check in mono. Cheers for the advice. EQing is something I’m trying to train my ears to a bit more. I find it real difficult and often EQ one area which ends up me needing to make further changes in others. It gets frustrating lol

mono-stereo

apyssjw nice tune. The artworks cool too.

apyssjw

mono-stereo Thanks, and for mentioning the artwork. It’s something I feel like I’m getting a good handle on.

ArchimedesQ

303abuser so, how do you know when a track is finished? 🤣🤣

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