Agree with Light foot, the pop side of things has been putrid for about 20 years. The overall standard of song writing and originality is shockingly bad. It seems Hip Hop and that type of track is the go-to formula for many artists/producers, and its all pure fucking shite.
Nicky Minaj and other cunts like Cardi B “ singing” about eating cock and rubbing their hymens is the norm now. “oh wow did you check out the lyrics of the new Cardi B track?” fuck off, it’s insulting to those of us who grew up listening to Talk Talk or David Bowie on MTV. Pop seems lazy, monotonous and raped as was previously mentioned, run by people who have no integrity whatsoever.
I don’t agree it’s for kids only either, my father who’s in his mid 60s can often be found humming the latest computer generated shite and will often claim to like the latest cut. Mainly because he’s a radio listener, the poor cunts who are force fed all the nonsense.

    You sounded like a proper boomer there LT. Ticked so many boxes, “back in my day the lyrics meant something.”

    Move on and let the kids enjoy it.

      Homegrove is the new Avalanches pop? It’s bloody catchy and has got the full family seal of approval as has the ultra poppy Dua Lipa one. Some really good remixes too

        When I think of good pop I get all misty eyed about the glory days of Eternal and Dina Carroll.

        Loved first half of the last Grimes album. Jessie Ware and Roisin Murphy’s latests were good. What is pop anyway?

          Didn’t Dermo bang on about his ultra rare KLF vinyl?

          The screams are perfect!

          LT42 I was unfortunate enough to watch the chrimbo TOTP and what a load of bland RnB/ShitHop . Compare that to watching the re runs of late 80s / early 90s where you’d go from from the Roses to 808 state to Cathy Dennis to Rene and Ronata. Talk about eclectic

          Music just isn’t the most important yoof pastime or profit generating medium anymore. Creatives just move into other things now such as gaming or app design , so we lose a chunk of people who may have produced interesting music . Also seems like commercialism is more important . When I was at school you tried to seek out unique hidden gems. This was common place and led to indie tracks charting and knocking traditional artists off their perch . I don’t hear this happening too often nowadays .

          going back to the KLF, love the whole story. One was a music exec right? Plus there is some stat that they had the most global sales of singles in one year. Amazing considering it was a glorified piss take . The fall out of them burning the $1mil and relationship bust ups and regretting in hindsight is also an interesting read .

            pop is what it is, i just do my best to ignore it all. the fact is, there’s almost too much good music now, but weeding through all the garbage to find it can be a full time job. i’m not in favour of gate-keeping, but there is something to be said for labels (talking electronic, not pop) filtering out the low quality stuff because physical media is expensive.

            people like me are part of the problem. it’s not that difficult be a bedroom producer and put out music that sounds professional, but really isn’t great or innovative. there’s so much content that is just ok, i think people get fatigued looking for the hidden gems and settle for what they’re being fed. it’s like looking for something to watch on netflix for 2 hours, then getting tired and just going to bed. streaming has vastly devalued music.

              Homegrove I agree, lots of good dance music about, see my mixes and charts. As mentioned I was talking more about pop and the charts. I should have been more specific. I disagree that the charts have always been for kids though, I think the joy of the charts was always the variety, which sadly has now disappeared. Consider that The Orb where once on TOTP where they played chess, I’m not sure we would get that these days.

              Interesting idea that a lot of the creatives are in other industries now.

              They burnt the million quid because they could afford too. They are both minted through earlier music and art.

                I’ve had to endure listening to Radio 1 working in peoples houses over the summer. I just couldn’t believe how bad not just the music was but the dj’s as well. I did ask them if i could listen to my usual station which is Radio 6 but within about an hour they hated it and changed it back. I do honestly believe that most people only listen and buy music they hear on the radio.
                One of my old flat mates told me that unless you hear it on the radio it’s not good music. He’s always liked pop music and still does.