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zackster Agreed. That sequence of tracks rolls along beautifully. That JVM bedrock mix is a stone cold classic.
Disc 2s of Superior Quality
mono-stereo yeah he seriously doesn’t put a foot wrong the entire time. I had such a good time listening to it.
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ScottBailey Tell you what though, you only realise how slow the bpm’s are nowerdays when you try to mix these classic tunes in. […] 128-130 was a great tempo for moving on the dancefloor. Feel like crowds have just become nodding brigades in the last 10 years
As I’ve pointed out on numerous occasions on this board, it’s because you fogeys are now mostly listening to the wrong music and going to the wrong places - in actual techno around 140bpm is still pretty standard, while in recent years DJs and sets pushing to around 150bpm have also become more common.
When it gets that fast though I think it can also create a slightly different but similar “nodding brigades” problem to that of the low tech-house/prog mid-20s bpms, in that it can be too fast for people to actually keep up with and do much actual moving in time to - when the tempos are so fast there’s only a limited range of movement your body can really fit in while staying on beat so people often just don’t really bother moving with it much at all and instead rather just vaguely sway.
PS also what zackster says above here.
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Do yourselves a favor lads. As Frank says she’ll like it too!
Mid-2000’s prog? Jesus wept. The peak of god awful BSPF. Those records aren’t worth the wax they’re pressed on. So bad people looked to electro era Tiefschwarz (still like their early house stuff) and Ricardo Villalobos minimal for an escape. That era was when many of my friends ditched dance music entirely. Killed GU while we’re at it.
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Remember Warren coming on after Lottie and playing it (one) as his first track at Turnmills to commemorate the GU it was on. It blew the doors off as Mr Caine would say. What a fucking set that was
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jonattonyeah I think I’m on record previously as saying that prog basically died 2002-3; i.e. from that point on (including the whole tiefschwarz stuff) it jumped the shark and bpms also started to plummet. I think 2004 counts as “mid-00s”?! I’m sure you get my point anyway.
That Sasha Essential Mix that opened with Ride was literally the last prog mix of all time.
I think even earlier. Still rank “Rise In” as the worst prog record ever made. That Sasha/Diggers NYE MTV mix is self-indulgent and terrible. DJ’s trying to do facsimiles of S/D were more focused on the perfect blend than actually moving a crowd. The music was bland and insipid by 2002 at the latest. Most of the bigger DJs ditched prog entirely or entirely ditched their careers (not always by choice). Shiloh and the like never mattered and never should have. Looking at JVM mixes from that era nostalgically is fucking insane to me. Those were the last nails in an already very nailed coffin.
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jonattonyeah The music was bland and insipid by 2002 at the latest
Mostly yes, but a few alright tunes still trickled in for a couple more years and it wasn’t so rare yet for the bpms to even venture north of 130.
jonattonyeah Shiloh and the like never mattered and never should have.
Sure.
jonattonyeah Shiloh and the like never mattered and never should have.
Go off KING! 
Proton Radio… Jaysus what an awful time!
To put it simply, there’s a reason people looked to Mylo, Desyn Masiello piano house, German micro, and pretty much anything but prog (and those three examples are pretty damn terrible). It got that bad. People lament that era as poor….well what caused it? 10 minute Bedrock releases and Proton Radio. Sander was like, out, I like girls. Shout out to Phil and Christopher Lobsinger.
Jonatthan Poundwater and Zackster are going great guns in this thread, and I put it all down to the recent well-deserved bollockings they’ve had off me keeping them on their toes.
Well in!