Dan never even listened to it, the tracklist and cover art made assume it wasn’t really for the likes of me. GU:Swerve as I like to call it.

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      Millsy I think I nabbed a copy off Limewire years ago and backed it after 20 minutes.

        You fuckin beauty!!!! Destroyed my mothers house and hit the jackpot!! @bosstrabs

        Can’t see Diggers doing LA if he got shafted with Hong Kong. He’s a savvy business man is uncle John.

        Did hear they fucked loads of people over though.

        Oh I am 100% sure it was Digweed who said that. Perhaps it was just for LA, but I could swear it was both. He specifically referenced the boat in the Getting Away With It documentary, which makes me think Hong Kong was included due to the time frame.

        Just listened to Jimmy Van M’s Bedrock again and think I’m siding with CD2.
        CD1 has some monster tunes in ‘Control Of Sound’, ‘Barotek’ and ‘Lacuna’, but enjoyed CD2 from start to finish more.

          That is a tough call. Not sure I agree, but I absolutely think it is up for debate. I also just listened to that one the other day. I will say this: he seriously bangs it out on that one. I forgot how fast and heavy he gets. He really lets it rip in the center to the end of disc 2. That was honestly the last time prog was good.

          Yeah man. Yum Yum into Control of Sound, into that one is a great chain of tunes.

            If you took the second Janiero out of CD2 and replaced it with Barotek, it’d be a one sided fight for me. That middle section on CD1 is filth, but I think the first 20 minutes let it dowm.

            aah I actually really like the Rui da Silva mix!

            I scrambled for anything wirh JvM’s name on it back in the day. He was a bit of an unknown entity on these shores, just popping up on Kiss 100 from time to time. Seemed to go off his game in the late 2010’s and goodness only knowns where he’s at now! Assuming the DJing took a back seat for the agency side of the business…

            Love that style of Van M’s. Saw him at the Redbox circa 05, dark shit all night with zero vox
            Hamel put his hands to some gold back then. This is a beaut….

              LT42
              He made some wicked music as did Blackwatch.

                Golden age of prog! Tell you what though, you only realise how slow the bpm’s are nowerdays when you try to mix these classic tunes in. Think it’s why people like Sasha stay away from them now, because you have to pitch them right back and they just sound off! 128-130 was a great tempo for moving on the dancefloor. Feel like crowds have just become nodding brigades in the last 10 years (not that I’m the best at cutting shapes myself).

                  Prog became low T when its fan base became low T. I suggest you all get yourselves some Nugenix and get on the Techno train!

                    zackster Agreed. That sequence of tracks rolls along beautifully. That JVM bedrock mix is a stone cold classic.

                        zackster
                        Been into it since the late 80’s early 90’s but then drifted away from it as it became to hard for my liking.

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                            mono-stereo yeah he seriously doesn’t put a foot wrong the entire time. I had such a good time listening to it.

                              Dan
                              I still like it but none of that heavy stuff.

                                ScottBailey Tell you what though, you only realise how slow the bpm’s are nowerdays when you try to mix these classic tunes in. […] 128-130 was a great tempo for moving on the dancefloor. Feel like crowds have just become nodding brigades in the last 10 years

                                As I’ve pointed out on numerous occasions on this board, it’s because you fogeys are now mostly listening to the wrong music and going to the wrong places - in actual techno around 140bpm is still pretty standard, while in recent years DJs and sets pushing to around 150bpm have also become more common.

                                When it gets that fast though I think it can also create a slightly different but similar “nodding brigades” problem to that of the low tech-house/prog mid-20s bpms, in that it can be too fast for people to actually keep up with and do much actual moving in time to - when the tempos are so fast there’s only a limited range of movement your body can really fit in while staying on beat so people often just don’t really bother moving with it much at all and instead rather just vaguely sway.

                                PS also what zackster says above here.

                                      LT42 lol as my dear friend Ed Smallman would say: BEHAVE!

                                        Do yourselves a favor lads. As Frank says she’ll like it too!

                                        LT42 yes that’s a tune, but it’s also 137bpm and 22 years old - kinda reinforces the general point being made about the sad, slow route “prog” and a lot of you lot ended up taking from the mid-00s.

                                          Mid-2000’s prog? Jesus wept. The peak of god awful BSPF. Those records aren’t worth the wax they’re pressed on. So bad people looked to electro era Tiefschwarz (still like their early house stuff) and Ricardo Villalobos minimal for an escape. That era was when many of my friends ditched dance music entirely. Killed GU while we’re at it.

                                            Remember Warren coming on after Lottie and playing it (one) as his first track at Turnmills to commemorate the GU it was on. It blew the doors off as Mr Caine would say. What a fucking set that was

                                            jonattonyeah I think I’m on record previously as saying that prog basically died 2002-3; i.e. from that point on (including the whole tiefschwarz stuff) it jumped the shark and bpms also started to plummet. I think 2004 counts as “mid-00s”?! I’m sure you get my point anyway.

                                                That Sasha Essential Mix that opened with Ride was literally the last prog mix of all time.