Love that style of Van M’s. Saw him at the Redbox circa 05, dark shit all night with zero vox
Hamel put his hands to some gold back then. This is a beaut….

    LT42
    He made some wicked music as did Blackwatch.

    Golden age of prog! Tell you what though, you only realise how slow the bpm’s are nowerdays when you try to mix these classic tunes in. Think it’s why people like Sasha stay away from them now, because you have to pitch them right back and they just sound off! 128-130 was a great tempo for moving on the dancefloor. Feel like crowds have just become nodding brigades in the last 10 years (not that I’m the best at cutting shapes myself).

      Prog became low T when its fan base became low T. I suggest you all get yourselves some Nugenix and get on the Techno train!

        zackster Agreed. That sequence of tracks rolls along beautifully. That JVM bedrock mix is a stone cold classic.

          zackster
          Been into it since the late 80’s early 90’s but then drifted away from it as it became to hard for my liking.

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            mono-stereo yeah he seriously doesn’t put a foot wrong the entire time. I had such a good time listening to it.

            Dan
            I still like it but none of that heavy stuff.

            ScottBailey Tell you what though, you only realise how slow the bpm’s are nowerdays when you try to mix these classic tunes in. […] 128-130 was a great tempo for moving on the dancefloor. Feel like crowds have just become nodding brigades in the last 10 years

            As I’ve pointed out on numerous occasions on this board, it’s because you fogeys are now mostly listening to the wrong music and going to the wrong places - in actual techno around 140bpm is still pretty standard, while in recent years DJs and sets pushing to around 150bpm have also become more common.

            When it gets that fast though I think it can also create a slightly different but similar “nodding brigades” problem to that of the low tech-house/prog mid-20s bpms, in that it can be too fast for people to actually keep up with and do much actual moving in time to - when the tempos are so fast there’s only a limited range of movement your body can really fit in while staying on beat so people often just don’t really bother moving with it much at all and instead rather just vaguely sway.

            PS also what zackster says above here.

              LT42 lol as my dear friend Ed Smallman would say: BEHAVE!

              Do yourselves a favor lads. As Frank says she’ll like it too!

              LT42 yes that’s a tune, but it’s also 137bpm and 22 years old - kinda reinforces the general point being made about the sad, slow route “prog” and a lot of you lot ended up taking from the mid-00s.

              Mid-2000’s prog? Jesus wept. The peak of god awful BSPF. Those records aren’t worth the wax they’re pressed on. So bad people looked to electro era Tiefschwarz (still like their early house stuff) and Ricardo Villalobos minimal for an escape. That era was when many of my friends ditched dance music entirely. Killed GU while we’re at it.

                Remember Warren coming on after Lottie and playing it (one) as his first track at Turnmills to commemorate the GU it was on. It blew the doors off as Mr Caine would say. What a fucking set that was

                jonattonyeah I think I’m on record previously as saying that prog basically died 2002-3; i.e. from that point on (including the whole tiefschwarz stuff) it jumped the shark and bpms also started to plummet. I think 2004 counts as “mid-00s”?! I’m sure you get my point anyway.

                  That Sasha Essential Mix that opened with Ride was literally the last prog mix of all time.