zackster but see, to me that’s basically too fast to really dance to, and when you look at the crowd they’re hardly dancing to it either. There’s no time to do anything other than bop and sway a bit. The music seems be verging on losing the crowd rather than engaging them.

It might sound slightly bananas and I like listening to it for a bit, but it ultimately seems a bit hollow and redundant.

    zackster
    I think the main problem is the speed of it. Most of the Techno in the early 90’s never went above 130 BPM or possibly less. So all the new stuff you’ve posted is so much faster it just sounds like a racket.

        hugopal who is that guy Hadone is in a group with? I forget what they call themselves. They had a set out from a COVID rave that I remember absolutely loving.

            zackster I hadn’t clocked that was released on Monnom Black. It must be a more recent development as I can barely recall anything like that from the many sets I’ve heard of him. His 2018 Essential Mix was far from that style. I don’t recall his lockdown sets touching upon it either. His big productions have all been very rhythmic-focused as well, with little in the way of melody.

              zackster who is that guy Hadone is in a group with? I forget what they call themselves. They had a set out from a COVID rave that I remember absolutely loving.

              Surely you mean Viper Diva?

              But that’s Hadone with the aforementioned Shlomo.

              Can’t recall any other groups Hadone is in.

                  Thats the one. Forgot Shlomo was the other one. Thought it was Kobosil for some reason.

                  Dubman I think the main problem is the speed of it. Most of the Techno in the early 90’s never went above 130 BPM or possibly less.

                  I can understand that view a bit when it nears 150, but as I like to remind this board peak-time late 90s Sasha was 140bpm.

                  Also, Jeff Mills was often easily over 140bpm in the early 90s.

                      Here is one to really make @Dan feel his age. Got these guys off of a Shlomo set.

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                        Getting this place to actually participate in a techno discussion has been like getting a puppy to listen to commands. I had to wear you all down with 8 days of your favorite thing, before you were calm enough to actually receive information.

                          zackster like getting a puppy to listen to commands. I had to wear you all down with 8 days of your favorite thing, before you were calm enough to actually receive information.

                          Psh, if only.

                            hugopal
                            That’s still nearly 10 years on. I bet Sasha was playing tunes in the low 120 bpms in the early 90’s. That’s just how it was back then. I don’t recall ever seeing Jeff mills DJ over here either. I do remember seeing Frankie bones & Lenny see but that was on the back of their Looney tunes ep’s.

                              All Sasha’s early 90s sets, that I have heard are way closer to 140 than 120.

                              hugopal which partly opened the doors to the euro/scandi stuff.

                              What is this euro/scandi stuff you speak of??

                                  mono-stereo What is this euro/scandi stuff you speak of??

                                  See the Courtesy set I posted above for an example (Courtesy is Danish) - it’s high bpm, very trance-influenced contemporary techno (with the occasional smidgeon of euro-pop influences as well), that initially appeared to come out of Copenhagen from late 2017. Central early Danish artists included Schacke, Sugar, Funeral Future, Repro, DJ Ibon, Niki Istrefi, and Kasper Marott, releasing on Euromantic (Funeral Future’s label) and Kulor (Courtesy’s label).

                                  The sound spread pretty quickly in techno and quite a few other techno artists from the continent emerged with aligned-sounding productions, including Hadone (from Belgium, some tracks posted above), Blame The Mono (France), Oprofessionell (Norway), and Alpha Tracks (Austria).

                                  A couple of track examples if you can’t be bothered to skim Courtesy’s mix:

                                  A big early track from some of the Danish producers which encapsulates the sound:

                                  Perhaps my fav track from the scene:

                                  Again, also check the later released Hadone / Viper Diva tracks above and the relationship and similarities will seem apparent. It’s also not a surprise that the artists I’ve mentioned above often play each other’s tracks (not only the Danish ones, so even though initially it was mostly a Danish thing, it’s now very much a Euro-wide thing).