alistair nah. But we have downsized. The reductions in global office rental and T&S is a positive.

    alistair

    What Millsy said below:

    alistair I’m a manager. I gauge my team based on their output. If someone isn’t delivering on their targets and actions I’m not sure how being in person or remote makes much difference.

    I’m also a manager. Oversight can be achieved in numerous ways. Virtual team meetings, one-to-ones, what they are telling you that helps you to understand the general mood/morale, but in particular the output, as Millsy said. If they’re not achieving targets, missing deadlines etc, you know something is amiss and more attention does need to be paid to how they are spending their time.

    The reality is that the horse has bolted and all of the old hackneyed reasons for now allowing people to work flexibly has been shattered. Clinging on to the idea of putting in face time and if you are doing x no. of hours sat in front of your desk is outmoded and (where it concerns people who take pride in doing excessively long hours in the office) it has been shown to be counterproductive.

    If you do a job where you have to physically show people how to do something as part of training, you probably do a job where you can’t work from home anyway. I’ve trained plenty of people from home because it uses the same ingredients as it would do if I was in an office setting.

        whatever I have covered all of the pros and cons in my previous posts. It depends on what your job is and how much you rely on the help of others to do it. It’s also evident that younger employees have shared living spaces that aren’t conducive to productive working.

          whatever It was a mixed picture during the pandemic with some of the sales team complaining about feeling isolated and unsupported and keen to get back to the office. Others would have preferred to work remotely full time, so I insisted we all spent at minimum of two days a week in the office and we would co-ordinate team meetings and a last Thursday of the month drinks.

            whatever
            You’re wasting your time. Our Ali wouldn’t be the man he was without a few well timed corporate reacharounds.

            You can’t wank your boss off over a Zoom call

                things i do like about the office include: cleaners/ someone restocking and cleaning the coffee machines, buying the milk etc also a greater variety of , er, optical stimulation.

                  Mad_Cyril

                  a few well timed corporate reacharounds.

                  Think the correct business term is corporate dividends.

                    C_J

                    greater variety of , er, optical stimulation.

                    Can’t even remember the last time I worked somewhere that there was even a single instance of optical stimulation, let alone a variety.

                      it’s also cool having like a workplace team who can sort your life out if your chair starts malfunctioning or your mouse dies or whatever. and being sat in the house all day every day definitely puts you closer to dementia imo. although Hannu apparently hasn’t seen any benefit in this regard.

                      Let’s be honest the main reason to go into the office is to go for beers at lunch and/or after work. It’s just not the same doing that whilst wfh.

                      The youngsters in my office don’t get that at all, they just come in to work. Boring cunts

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