Music streaming services

wrongun

Apple isnt as ‘intuitive’ for a dunce like me - have never got on with in it when dipped mhy toes

Whats most similar to Spotify, without being absolute warmongering, greedy cunts?

Along_the_Wire

wrongun Qobuz gives the most to artists

Mad_Cyril

wrongun
Tidal.

Grant keeps plugging Qobuz because it’s got big buttons

hugopal

Along_the_Wire Just read that the Spotify owner is using profits to fund drone production for Russia

Smallman1 Yep, leaving soon.

Millsy well that’s very offside…. Will talk to the Mills family forthwith!

Amps Just a note here for when people have a go at me for posting my lefty bilge: this info broke some months back, I’m always amazed when people haven’t heard about it.

What’s your source for your statement @Along_the_Wire?

Daniel Ek has invested in Helsing - who supply military drones for Ukraine to defend itself (from Russia).

"Spotify founder Daniel Ek’s investment company is leading a €600mn funding round in Helsing, valuing the German defence tech group at €12bn and making it one of Europe’s most valuable start-ups

Helsing has sold thousands of strike drones, produced in its facility in southern Germany, to Ukraine"

https://www.ft.com/content/cdc02d96-13b5-4ca2-aa0b-1fc7568e9fa0

Massive Attack are plonkers who share Amps’ politics. While they say they don’t want their music to support military technology, if you’re someone who supports Ukraine’s right to self-defence it’s a strange objection to make.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/sep/18/massive-attack-remove-music-from-spotify-to-protest-ceo-daniel-eks-investment-in-ai-military

Along_the_Wire

hugopal What’s your source for your statement

A mate of mine!

hugopal

Along_the_Wire A mate of mine!

Your “mate” said that Spotify’s owner is funding drone production “for Russia”?

Not “for Ukraine, to defend itself from Russia”?…

If it was the first statement, then either your mate is telling porkies, or one of them or you misheard…

Helsing supply drones to Ukraine. They do not supply drones to Russia.

Along_the_Wire

Mad_Cyril I don’t use Qobuz, but used it on a trial, was impressed with it is all.

Along_the_Wire

hugopal my mate gave me misinformation - it happens, it’s okay.

hugopal

Along_the_Wire my mate gave me misinformation - it happens, it’s okay.

@Millsy
@Smallman1
@Amps

You guys hear that, right?

What would you all do without me? Donkeys led by donkeys…

Mad_Cyril

Along_the_Wire I don’t use Qobuz

Hugo will be on the fewn at this!

Amps

hugopal You guys hear that, right?

Lollers. I knew the AI drone story, and assumed he had upped his game to selling to the Russians. I wasn’t about to go and personally check his inventory to see if it was true. Either way, it’s your music money going to killing people. Nice that it’s helping defend the people of Ukraine this week, but next week the same company will be helping murder some other people for the sake of cheap oil or freedom or some such shite. Spotify are defo still a swerve, no matter what spin he puts on his investments.

hugopal What would you all do without me?

Have more fun?

Amps

Along_the_Wire Did you share it?

Not that specific story, but I was making a more general point.

hugopal

Amps and assumed he had upped his game to selling to the Russians

Of course you did. Assumptions make an ass..

Amps I wasn’t about to go and personally check his inventory to see if it was true.

Of course you weren’t; you are dense and a slave to ideology.

Amps Either way, it’s your music money going to killing people.

That will happen anyway through your VAT tax spend - and basically every UK party (other than maybe UKIP) would also be committed to using your tax money to fund the military defence of Ukraine.

Mad_Cyril

Amps hugopal What would you all do without me?

Have more fun?

GenLOL for Amps

Dan

Along_the_Wire FFS…. I only resubscribed last night. 🤦🏻‍♂️

RichM

So we all good to stick with Spotify? I did look at alternatives recently as Spotify have upped their price, but stuck with the lazy approach and do nothing!

hugopal

RichM So we all good to stick with Spotify?

Base your decision around which is the best product. Not nonsense and misinformation to do with the founder.

Amps

hugopal VAT tax spend

I can’t do too much about that, but I can choose not to give Spotify my money, and not invest in his ‘defense’ company.

LT42

Amps amazing that he made that analogy and never really thought it through

303abuser

Defense investments aside, there are a million other music-related reasons to not pay spotify.

Smallman1

Think I’ll stick with them.

Homegrove

Aside from the pretty stellar algorhitm when it comes to stuff it suggests for you I really can’t think of any reason to use Spotify rather than Tidal. I tried Qobuz and Apple Music too, but didn’t like either.

I still have Spotify on my phone for older podcast-episodes (for new podcasts I use Pocketcasts), they’re often only there. But for that I don’t have to pay Spotify anything.

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