A cooked breakfast and 8 pints a day is your friend lads.

The GREAT British diet.

Post a link if you want to go though it (although I really don’t feel like going through that effort), but I know the canadian and american health guidelines are incomplete and misleading, mostly based on out-dated science and lobby/self-interest groups. Here’s a quote as an example:

**Nutritious foods are the foundation for healthy eating.

Vegetables, fruit, whole grains, and protein foods should be consumed regularly. Among protein foods, consume plant-based more often.
Protein foods include legumes, nuts, seeds, tofu, fortified soy beverage, fish, shellfish, eggs, poultry, lean red meat including wild game, lower fat milk, lower fat yogurts, lower fat kefir, and cheeses lower in fat and sodium.**

This is the first guideline. Plant-based proteins aren’t healthier than properly sourced animal proteins and are less bio available. Legumes are pro-inflammatory. Fatty meat is better than lean red meat (again assuming it’s reasonably sourced), low fat milk/yorgurt/kefir is just laughable as they’re fortified with sugar and the fat is the healthy part. And low sodium recommendations are just ill-informed.

That’s just their first guideline here in Canada. It’s a bloody mess.

edit: it won’t format the quote correctly, it’s the bit between the ** sets.

Ok well for starters The British Heart Foundation isn’t government it’s a cardiovascular research charity in the UK. It funds medical research related to heart and circulatory diseases and their risk factors, and runs influencing work aimed at shaping public policy and raising awareness.
A board of trustees is responsible for the governance and strategies and is made up of 14 medically-qualified experts and research specialists. It’s not for profit.
It doesn’t make sense to question what their guidelines are really unless you’re a qualified research scientists or well read nutritional specialist who have published peer reviewed research themselves. And the BHF say eating cholesterol rich ox liver is not a great idea. As is not eating spoon fulls of coconut oil daily. I’m guessing they are basing this on research they have funded and published.

    Who eats ox liver daily?

    Apart from an absolute nut job.

    I’ll take your word for it, I don’t know anything about the british heart foundation. Maybe these types of organizations are less corrupted there, it’s a different story here. If they are linking dietary cholesterol to heart disease though, you may want to start questioning them a bit more.

      They are a much trusted benchmark mate. Tbh I don’t really feel any need to question their advice as it’s a time honoured British institution with some of the best research science backing them up. Well, I can only go off what they recommended for me, I had elevated cholesterol, not really high but elevated. Came out of the blue too because I’m pretty fit, in the middle of my BMI and always had a, what is considered healthy, Mediterranean type diet and I’ve always been an everything in moderation type. Anyway it turned out to be hereditary. Although in fairness I probably nailed too much cheese, other dairy and red meat. I followed the BHF guidelines and within a year I was back to normal. They didnt advise to do anything radical, just common sense mainly.

      That’s fair, just food for thought. Diet is a lot of n=1 and as long as you’ve found a groove that keeps you healthy, that’s the goal.

      Worst joint issue is that I just don’t have the nimble fingers required to roll a really tight ‘L’ now that I’m 42.

        303abuser

        They (The bhf) have a reasonably dim view on coconut fat and advise it be treated as, and considered as, a saturated fat by anyone with cholesterol or cardiovascular issues. The last thing I’d read about it from them was they were extremely concerned by the large amount of money the coconut industry were pumping into coconut oil marketing campaigns, a pretty corrupt industry by all accounts unsurprisingly. That campaign was effective and hugely successful and the cause of the massive interest that came almost overnight. Also the claims being made by these campaigns were mostly unfounded ,not supported by nutritionalists or backed up by medical science and based on nothing. It’s only since the campaigns that people have actually starts to look into it in more depth.

            Derm v14.0 is a whirlwind of toxic hatred towards 50% of the board’s posters, helpful and well-researched, peer-reviewed nutritional advice to the other 50%.

              bosstrabs

              You knowz it! Me and Ye together gonna take the planet and anyone who doesn’t like it will be collected by our mechanical bees. 🐝🐝🐝

                303abuser Dietary cholesterol is no actual problem for LDL levels as out bowels can extract about 75mg daily. Saturated fats however can be metabolised unlimited and will increase LDL levels beyond a certain daily intake.

                    bosstrabs
                    Good work Dave, been holding back on the obvious since the thread’s inception.

                    Saves me the mental battle every time I see it

                      Cankles-McJeggings Morty-C-137

                      The problem is context though. In the presence of a high carb diet, higher cholesterol is an issue, but if you’re eating LCHF, it’s not. And I’m not sure I’ve read a study that actually accounts for those factors. Dietary research is a mine field of partially qualified studies because you just can’t ethically or practically control for everything.

                      ** I’m clearly no expert, don’t take my word for anything