rhouses with China going nuts at the moment

Well, what’s happening here is basically the same as I remember the early days of it spreading massively in the UK (I arrived in the UK for an extended break 2 days before the first ever death in Beijing from COVID).

No-one going out, mass hysteria, hospitals overburdened, people talking about ‘flattening the curve’.

It’s just the numbers here are going to be absolutely massive in comparison because it’s China. A city of 1 million people doesn’t even register as a significant/important city. Beijing has 20 million, Shanghai about 25. It’s a massive scale that probably only someone who has lived here, or an Indian could comprehend, actually.

And, of course, the vaccination isn’t supposed to be particularly effective. An added problem.

      rhouses Didn’t really see a big spike globally when HK randomly got smashed by covid

      I don’t really see why there would be? Because HK is a travel hub? So is Singapore, Dubai and loads of other places that have had it.

      HK effectively operates the same way as those places to - as a city-state with enforced borders between it and its neighbouring territories that people don’t flow through that easily*.

      *Strangely, it is much easier for me as a Brit to go in and out of HK than it is a mainland Chinese person. I just walk in, with a British passport, they have to have something basically equivalent to a visa to enter.

          bosstrabs I’m assuming it’s going to be a devasting culling of the older generation. But yeah, understand the population scale makes it relatively similar to India. Maybe China has better health infrastructure.

          Interesting to see how the Chinese government knee jerked with absolutely no planning, definitely reminds me of Indian governance. With a vaccine they probably know is useless. Maybe they can focus a little less on the border, and get some stock from India.

          bosstrabs Yup, mostly because it’s a travel hub and a key shipping port. Would have thought they’d have made colonial access difficult and the Chinese could stroll in as they please - definitely strange.

              The UK passport also allows visa-free entry to Malaysia, another legacy of the colonial era that has never been rolled back.

                bosstrabs lol. Incidentally my closest friend from my England days missed my wedding, as he was rejected at immigration when he attempted to enter India with a visa-less British passport.

                  There are actually many reasons for the Chinese to restrict mainlanders from easily going to Hong Kong, but as I understand it one of the main ones is the lower sales taxes in Hong Kong would allow ample opportunities for arbitrage/resale of goods that could be bought in Hong Kong and then easily driven/walked back over the border.

                  Also, the Brits in Hong Kong don’t generally make a pain in the arse of themselves (unlike the EasyJet hordes around Europe or on all-inclusives in the “Dom Rep”) so there’s no practical reason to repeal that particular status, other than pointless spite of course.

                    bosstrabs Ahh yes. That’s what I was wondering when we were talking about the luxury goods tax on boss trabs in China.

                      Dave and Rhouses riffing on UK visas?

                      Scones!

                      Long thread. Tl;dr covid will fuck up your immune system even if you had a light case.

                        Homegrove

                        How long we fucked for? I last had it in april but sure I’m gonna hit that shit doing the rounds in the U.K. with our friends (and a lot of kids!)

                            Fuck knows. I hope I benefit from having it now ahead of the big wave coming from China, but maybe I’ll just get covid third time in February or something.

                              Homegrove Fuck knows. I hope I benefit from having it now ahead of the big wave coming from China, but maybe I’ll just get covid third time in February or something.

                              The big wave here is because no-one has built up any immunity.

                              It won’t hit the same when it gets recycled back to Europe, where people have already caught it once or twice.

                                  rhouses
                                  Heard India they maybe bringing in that you need a PCR test to enter India from certain countries. Hope the UK is not on that list.

                                      Dubman everyone a tad bit spooked, can’t really say much for the next two weeks.

                                          rhouses
                                          I think they are waiting to see what happens over Christmas. I don’t arrive until the 11th Jan

                                            It’s hardly an impossible position to find yourself in. Just get a PCR test and away you go

                                            NasserAlazzawi Purely anecdotally, I never get sick, like a cold every 4 years. I’ve had colds (or maybe covid again, who knows) in October and December after dealing with covid in January.