Bunker 49

Dry-Tinder

Maybe had to be near home this weekend. Personal engagement.

whatever

Yeah true. He was obviously planning it for a few weeks as he was testing the live stream.

Dry-Tinder

A couple of years back I had a meeting with a very famous DJ. He told me that he had moved out of London because he was sick of flying around the world every weekend just to pay off his credit cards, so sold his place in London and got a place in the country. I could understand him moving out of London as he has a wife and kids, what surprised me was that he had credit cards and racked up debts on them, WTF was he spending money on? But one thing is for sure many of them now just treat it like a job and are just keeping a career going to pay mortgages, school fees and luxuries etc

whatever

Dry-Tinder

Never been a touring DJ of course, but It doesn’t surprise me, I guess. Maybe it is more to do with lack of skills in managing money? I suspect the lifestyle also promotes a sense that you can blow money because there’s always another gig and you then enslave yourself to that cycle. See also the “DJs begging’ thread for examples of DJs that don’t think about what happens when you get older and need savings and a pension to fall back on.

SM001

Cankles-McJeggings Swing and a miss, Derm.

My heart sinks when I see a tracklisting just filled with a DJ’s own productions. Pointless endeavour. Negates one of the main facets of being a DJ.

Dan

SM001 Obviously you’ve never been a Todd Terry fan.

Dubman

SM001
Not really. If they’ve got a decent discography then why shouldn’t they play their own music.

BlainSA

SM001 What about when a DJ plays tracks all by one producer?

SM001

Dubman It depends on how expansive their discography is in terms of styles/genres and how far back it goes. I’m not saying DJ’s shouldn’t play their own tracks at all but a mix with just their own tracks on it is self indulgent.

ArchimedesQ

Dubman I kinda agree with this, surely if you are a DJ producer then as long as you have the necessary skills, everyone should really be their own favourite DJ. It’s a controversial opinion I guess but at least as a DJ, if you have integrity rather than a need to be liked, you will play the tracks that you like rather than the ones you think everyone wants to hear. Maybe it’s naivety on my part but isn’t this what primarily separates business from art?

Heno

ScottBailey Sasha looks like fuckin Pitbull

Heno

BlainSA yeah I agree, loads of tunes that don’t go anywhere really

ArchimedesQ

ScottBailey since I found out from a very reliable source that from a production point of view at least, Auntie John is actually mostly Nick Muir in disguise it has ‘coloured’ my opinion of him slightly too 🙂

BlainSA

ArchimedesQ Maybe now, but the stuff they released together years back was way better than the stuff NM did on his own.

ScottBailey

ArchimedesQ I’ve been under the impression that Transitions has been NM for many years. In terms of production NM was quite candid in an interview that he did most of the work, but JD’s contribution would be to critique the track and make suggestions for tweeks here and there.

erik

ArchimedesQ yep it’s been like that since day dot, literally nothing new

ArchimedesQ

SM001 some DJs do this as standard, I’m thinking of artists like Babicz, Nthng, really often play sets consisting of nothing but their own productions - Is it self indulgent? Not sure I agree - When I’m listening I’m not thinking ‘FFS, Play something else’

BlainSA

ArchimedesQ if you have integrity rather than a need to be liked, you will play the tracks that you like rather than the ones you think everyone wants to hear.

Reminds me of an interview with C Richards where he was being led by the journalist with the question, ’Do you read the crowd when you’re choosing your records?' as was the popular question to DJs at the time so they could say about how they adapt their sets accordingly. He shut that shit down and said, ‘No, I play whatever I want to play.’ lol

Dubman

ArchimedesQ
Exactly. If it’s good enough then why not I say.

SM001

ArchimedesQ Babicz & Nthng are artists first. I wouldn’t consider them DJ’s.

ArchimedesQ

BlainSA I would assume that’s because Auntie John has always held the purse strings

ScottBailey

BlainSA the whole notion that the DJs we love and admire mix on the fly and just let the crowd dictate the set is pie in the sky in my opinion. You only have to look at a snapshot of Sasha’s sets of old to see he pretty much played the same set for 3 months straight with the odd new track substituting in. It was (and still is) an art finding two/three tracks that work perfectly together. Everyone put multiple hours in practicing those mixes, and I can’t imagine it’s too dissimilar now too

Cankles-McJeggings

Diggers properly got his tits out when I said to him it’s well known NM did transitions for him haha.
Called me a plank he did. Which cut me deep I can tell you.

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