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Hursty Those housing improvements should have come in 15 years ago too. They’re probably the easiest of the lot to implement.

Hursty all good in theory and I support the transition, but where are all the charging points? The infrastructure needs to be in place. It’s a huge project requiring a huge amount of investment and joined up thinking. Moreover electric cars cannot be the sole preserve of the rich. They have to manufacture ranges that are competitively priced and do this in the time-frame. They need to take the public with them on this otherwise it will be one gigantic u-turn

    alistair Not denying that nationally, the infrastructure has gotta be massively improved. It’s starting though. I drive an EV, and live in Brighton. There’s now a network of over 300 charging points across the city, including 5 within 200m of my house. It’s not there yet, but it’s a start…

      alistair manufacture ranges that are competitively priced

      This is announcement is a shot across the bows for the car manufacturers, they need a greater range of options. They’re coming, new models every week at the moment, but price and production are as you say an issue. Infrastructure will be a doddle.

      I’ll hold fire for a driverless number.

      A digital chauffeur in essence.

      • Amps replied to this.

        vinnyt77 Brighton have always led the way mate. The rest of the country needs to follow

        Smallman1 Only a year or two and you will be able to get one from Tesla, only problem is that the full self driving will probably cost you another 100K on top of the price of the car, although the upside is with full self driving the car can be used as a robo taxi whenever you’re not using it, so you can make some income with it.

        Suggest you get one with a sun roof.

          Amps Suggest you get one with a sun roof.

          I live in England Amps, not the Gobi desert.

          alistair Agreed there has to be a massive step up infrastructure to support the growing market, however I also drive an EV now too and find it very easy to charge up wherever I go, supermarkets, car parks, service stations.

          Ive had a home charger installed but currently use the council sports centre nearby as its free to do so, not sure how long that will last. There is 4 chargers there and I’ve had a choice of all 4 chargers every time I’ve been there.

          It definitely feels like the future driving an EV, quiet, clean and lots of automation, there is no way my kids will be taking a normal driving test when they are 17, especially for a manual car.

            Amps lol. Do they do a pope mobile version?

            • Amps replied to this.

              Hursty Sounds good to me. If you don’t mind me asking, what E car have you got?

                Amps There will be a lot more car sharing and subscription models for the future if car ownership.

                It’s like the migration to the cloud for IT, why pay for on premise data centres full of kit you may not use all of the time and it costs you to maintain it.

                Much better to only pay for what you use, how you use it and what you require.

                • Amps replied to this.

                  alistair A baby one, Hyundai Ioniq Electric.

                  Drives itself on the main roads and motorways, only bitches when you take your hands off the steering wheel!

                    Hursty Agreed, but I think a lot of the ideas and timelines being floated at the moment are way off. I think it will be a generational issue, and might take twenty or more years before car ownership is no longer a thing. Either that, or it becomes so crazy cheap that the cost of owning a car doesn’t make any sense at all, and again, I think that is still a way off.

                      Hursty I have the hybrid. It’s a nice car. How do you find the EV drives?

                        Millsy It’s different that’s for sure, instant power, perfectly smooth and quiet, I also like the one pedal driving, no need for the brake pedal hardly. The main benefit for me is the stress of driving has been taken away, most tasks have been outsourced which is great. My car isn’t the fastest or has the greatest range but caters for 99% of all my journeys.

                        Amps Yeah the current generation have been weaned on the subscription model so it will be interesting watching it develop

                          Hursty only things I would change is the foot ‘hand’ brake and the lack of a rear wiper tbh.