zackster lol of course! The exact same logic you used for Israel and the settlements!
Well yeah I mean - as I’ve pointed out before the region was owned by the Ottoman Empire before the British won it off them when they already were at war.
There’s also a difference between invading a country before they have done anything to you (Germany on Poland, Arab League on Israel, Russia on Ukraine), and invading another country as a response to them having invaded you first.
Along_the_Wire is it fair too simply assume that I don’t agree with murder, torture and kidnapping of innocent civilians
It’s amazing that anyone will argue against this position.
All of you taking a firm side are either emotionally and irrationally tied to that position or ignorant to the history of this conflict. Regardless of who is “wrong” on whatever timescale you’ve cherry-picked, killing civilians and propagating conflict isn’t a solution. Indiscriminate killing on both sides only ensures that future generations are still entrenched in an endless war. It’s a carbon copy of 20th century American foreign policy and we’ve seen what that does to extremism and terroism.
Maybe it’s time for a different strategy, but then we’d have to have the discussion about the influence of magical thinking on society and we all know that’s not happening anytime soon.
This shit makes me want to cheer for climate change.
I think they should all go for a good long walk
Old-Dutch and a stern word with themselves.
baggers44 Depends on the disc, Baggers. Absolute schoolboy stuff from the lad.
303abuser well said.
hugopal If the Palestinians couldn’t countenance there being a war, they shouldn’t have launched an invasion.
“Palestinians” didn’t launch the invasion, Hamas did. Stop conflating the two.
Hugo and co love using IDF talking points and tactics such as this to dehumanize arabs.
mono-stereo “Palestinians” didn’t launch the invasion, Hamas did. Stop conflating the two.
Am I going to have to go through the same conversation with you as I just had with Grant?! The Allies weren’t just at war with the Nazi party in the 1940s, it was with Germany. Ukraine aren’t just at war with Putin, they are fighting Russia. The same is the case with this other totalitarian state.
hugopal You’re conflating a nation state with it’s inhabitants.
zackster Hugo and co love using IDF talking points and tactics such as this to dehumanize arabs.
Okay, let’s “humanize” them a bit more again (I have already given some info on their internal politics and demographics before, if you’d bothered to read).
You’ve tried to claim Gaza as being “an open air prison” - yet the Gazans themselves are the ones who effectively imprison their own women in the country:
“A Hamas-run Islamic court in the Gaza Strip has ruled that women require the permission of a male guardian to travel”
"The decision by the sharia judicial council, issued on Sunday, says an unmarried woman may not travel without the permission of her “guardian”, which would usually refer to her father or another older male relative. Permission would need to be registered at the court, but the man would not be required to accompany the woman on the trip.
The language of the ruling strongly implied that a married woman would not be able to travel without her husband’s approval."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/15/women-male-guardian-hamas-gaza-strip
hugopal there you go again, conflating “Gazans” with Hamas.
mono-stereo You’re conflating a nation state with it’s inhabitants.
Sure it’s literally the pieces of soil on the ground in the regions that was accidentally blown by air and in to the territory of the next country and started firing machine guns.
mono-stereo there you go again, conflating “Gazans” with Hamas.
Gaza is run by Hamas. What the heck are you even suggesting?!
hugopal Sure it’s literally the pieces of soil on the ground in the regions that was accidentally blown by air and in to the territory of the next country and started firing machine guns.
Quoted for posterity 
hugopal I’m suggesting that the people of Gaza and Hamas are two separate entities.
I shouldn’t need to spell that out to you really, but you seem fundamentally confused.
mono-stereo Cheers, I’m just so tired of all of this. Muppets have gone from being instant virology experts to geopolitical experts, it’s inane.
