Election 2024: The Fate of Democracy

Decent summary from Pie

Along_the_Wire thank you, Xx to you too

LT42 will read that tomorrow. I didn’t think someone like him would add that much value. But am prepared to be proved wrong

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Right, I don’t think much changes bigger picture, politics is a very old game.

The Democratic Party certainly spends a lot of money on elections for not caring about winning any of them…

LT42 according to this Republicans lost about 4% of their voters compared to 2020

So when you say “new voters” do you mean that a large number of the ones who voted in 2020 didn’t show up but were subsidized/replaced by Tesla employees and UFC fans?

I would have preferred Harris on balance, but it is joyous to see people like Homegrove and all the Yanks in Beijing with a massive sulk on.

deadhead we’re not doing high level algebra here. I’m sure you’re aware of the concept of swing voters? Those who voted blue last time, voting red this time. Mind blowing stuff, I know. Elon, normally a Democratic voter, moved the needle in swing states because people were essentially voting for him rather than Trump, you could say.

Democrats shouldn’t minimise the effect Elon, Rogan, and 3 hour bro podcasts have on the whites.

Its also clear a lot of people just said fuck it, whats the point in voting anymore. Clearly a bad idea in this case but you can understand why.

alistair If you think identity politics is exclusive to the Dems then I’ll just assume you read that somewhere and are parroting it without thinking for yourself. Did you miss the whole “woke” campaign thats been going on for the last 10 years? The Tea Party back in 2008? Or the evangelical movement that started in 1980 that changed the face of the Republican party? Identity politics is nothing new and is one of the main reasons the US is so divided, blaming Dems for that is myopic.

LT42 Well considering I’ve been fully aware of Putin’s campaign during last week’s elections in Tblisi and his ongoing campaign in the USA, yes I did expect an upset.

Never in doubt, LT!

LT42 it’s not identity politics if it’s keeping women and minorities hidden, silent and under the thumb apparently.

Homegrove Alistair has been a victim of identity politics judging by his voting record.

LT42 You know me so well

alistair Pure denial to say otherwise

Saying both sides are culpible for identity politics is “denial”? Did you lose your powers of comprehension, Alistair? You’re making yourself look like a thick cunt.

deadhead The Democratic Party certainly spends a lot of money on elections for not caring about winning any of them…

It’s almost bizarre thinking about it from that perspective. There’s no way that I understand better than the machine how these elections are going to turn out, but somehow that’s how it appears. It leads me to believe that they’re all making so much money from both the political grift and the cushy private industry jobs they get after leaving office, that they really don’t care which side of the fence they end up on. It’s all been completely corrupted and both parties are owned by corporations and their lobbiests.

alistair Sure it is. The extremes on both sides have moved so far out that they’re not relatable to most people.