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  • Starmer (UK is Jaded thread)

RichM it won’t be that long. The media were already sowing the seeds of doubt earlier by continually banging on about how the majority isn’t all that, the rise of Reform etc.

    gcw it won’t be that long. The media were already sowing the seeds of doubt earlier by continually banging on about how the majority isn’t all that, the rise of Reform etc.

    Depends which elements of the media you’re talking about. The RWM have schilled for the Tories for the entire 14.5 years. It was only when the fuck ups got so bad that the “Emperor’s Clothes’ facade finally fell away with much of the public cottoning on only years later.

    The Tories were in full control and still too incompetent to address the many societal issues, choosing instead to funnel money to the wealthy at opportunity and were reliably front and centre on all of the corruption/sleaze issues.

    Conversely, as soon as the Tories looked to be on the ropes, the narrative has been M, “what are Labour doing about it?” Overlooking that they weren’t in power and were in opposition for the entire period. The Tories have puked all over the country and yet the RWM will say Labour haven’t or won’t be able to do anything.

    gcw Reform would’ve taken Labour votes too - racists get fucking everywhere.

    Protestor lols at Farages ‘victory’ speech. Poor Nigel!

    Labour back in! Rayner on the front bench!

    Not Time for Change, Time for CLUNGE!

      The insufferable gobshite Emily Thornberry ditched as Attorney General. Nice one 👍

      bosstrabs What the fuck has happened to Ed Miliband?

      He’s more Indian than Rhouses!

      He looks like Four Tet:

        That first speech was pretty good… ha. Promising I suppose.

        Does Labour getting voted in after ages mean significant changes for any of you (socially or economically)?

        I sometimes wonder if I my life would change at all if BJP was voted out and Congress came back in here in India.

          Good to see Peter Kyle in the cabinet. A genuinely good and decent man with a history of proper work outside of politics.

          rhouses I’m not sure. I’m pretty confused about the health stuff and what Wes is actually going to do.

          rhouses I suspect people will have slightly less pay each month as taxes increase, but difficult to say if that will be really that noticeable. All depends on your earnings I suppose.

          They’ve also promised to speed up the pace of house building, which if they do will have big social impact. However I feel they would need to be in power for 10-15 years in a row for that to actually come to fruition, and they won’t get that long IMO.

          • Amps replied to this.

            rhouses Far too early to tell. First budget will be more instructive than a paper thin manifesto.

            We’ve got to be optimistic but I doubt we’ll see hardly any change for at least 5-10 years realistically. To rebuild public services alone will be a massive task. After the damage which was caused by austerity. I suspect they will have to borrow massive amounts of money if they don’t get the growth they’re projected which in turn will raise taxes. I still to understand how the Tories would have done it buy cutting taxes.

              Dubman the currency printer is ready and primed, just need those interest rates to start coming down