I’m fairly sure the reduction in strength is due to pubs deciding not to stock the stronger strength Stellas etc.

It was my go to beer about 25 years ago. Completely ruined the flavour when they changed it. And have done so again. Would love to try an old Stella from a tap to see if my tastes have changed. The new stella is rank

    Old-Dutch Inbev ruined like every fucking beer they added to their portfolio. They used all their gmo wheat for the malt, resulting in sweet sugary hangover bier. It’s such a crime.

    I knew something was up when I never beat my wife the same as before.

    Is nothing sacred?

    Unbroken1 i thought it was to do with tax, the higher the alcohol the more tax they pay. But could be wrong on that.

      zackster

      It’s also about keg turnover. Higher ABV beers used to come in smaller or half kegs. Now they often come in full size. By the time you get to the end, it’s gross. We used to stock St Bernardus, a really nice Belgian quad. We could get through a smaller keg in a week or so. The full keg? Not a chance before it turns. So we stopped selling it. The Anchor and Allagash session lagers we’ll rip through in a matter of days when the weather is nice. It’s just more practical.

        zackster

        There are essentially just two distributors in California unless you buy local. They act as cartels, really. They’ll pull shenanigans like, “you don’t get Pappy this year unless you stock blah blah blah along with it” like it’s our fault they went all in on a shitty mezcal.

          zackster not sure in the UK that would be the case for Stella, San Miguel etc. We just get more pissed

          jonattonyeah the state controls wine and hard liquor here, which is an annoying pain in the ass. Beer however is open to private sellers and my area happens to be home to the guy that supplies ½ the state. You can get a keg of literally anything with a few days notice. Most the cool hipster bars have the tap set up for actual casks so we are spoiled with awesome euro drafts. Used to get Cantillon until it became impossible to find which has been a travesty .

            What ever happened to Carling Premier? A mix between bitter and lager.

            Used to enjoy the odd pint of that.

              zackster

              Yeah Cantillon’s are hard to come by. A place down the road gets them in bottles from time to time. They have to limit one per customer due to resales. I don’t get the fuss, personally, but I also don’t like sours so….yeah.

              Casks are so damned expensive to install and maintain. I can think of a handful of places that have them. But they’re rare around here. On the east coast and in the UK they’re standard so people who clean lines and do maintenance are used to working with them. They’re niche on the west coast; specialized training is needed and that comes with a price. Our building is also old by our standards (1852). Doing anything out of the ordinary in there is a right pain.

              mono-stereo was a big fan of carling premier. Was a good beer to drink after 7-8 pints of lager and couldn’t face another one.

              What are these spiked seltzers you speak of Zacskter and H?

              Check it out, Smallman being a total thicket again, unable to piece it together from the details in the thread and Google.

                bosstrabs Check it out, Smallman being a total thicket again, unable to piece it together from the details in the thread and Google.

                Dave still absolutely FEWMIN about the kicking he took for being an absolute pussio when it comes to smashing back the booze!

                Come back when you’ve figured out how not to be a total thicket, OLB!

                Smallman: What are these new Tropical Reef? Any cop? (no, unless you’re a burd)

                6 months later

                Found this in my local Sainsbury’s. Smallman1 - should be right up your strasse….

                seanc80 How did I miss this? I’ve been all about jumping off big rocks for ages!

                10 months later

                Amps far too many craft beers on the market, all of which taste fruiter than a Robinsons fruit shoot. Can stomach Punk IPA if there’s no old man’s beer on, otherwise gimme a pint of Abbot any day!

                • Amps replied to this.

                  Had half a pint of Asahi in a Japanese restaurant in Balham earlier.

                  Was absolutely magnificent.

                    Ah the age old question of who ever orders a half pint, answered!