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The old adage of ’if it’s too good to be true, it usually is’ really springs to mind.

Old-Dutch Get a hard wallet. Take all your coins off the websites / brokerages etc. and put them in your hard wallet. You can do what you like with them then. Get a physical password safe too.

Warning though, if you buy some proper esoteric coin where you have to sacrifice your first born to some ancient Sumerian fertility god whilst standing on one foot in a a bucket of custard and listening to Trisco - Muzak, you might find the wallet won’t except it, yet. The wallets get updated regularly with new apps as different coins get more popular.

    Amps
    Whilst I’m sure this advice is earnest, a lack of slang/buzzwords, what you’ve just learned off Reddit, undermines your credibility

    • Amps replied to this.

      I’m still not sure how everybody can make money.

      ‘A’ mines a coin for electricity cost $10
      ‘B’ buys the coin for $15 - $5 profit to A
      ‘C’ buys the coin for $20 - $5 profit to B
      ‘D’ buys the coin for $25 - $5 profit to C

      ‘D’ is now holding the coin and $25 out of pocket. The only way everybody can make money is if it keeps going up. Which it cannot. So eventually the price falls. All that profit made by A, B and C is just potential loss for D.

      The difference with investing in stocks in a company is that you are buying into what the company produces. The output from it. When you buy a bitcoin you are not buying into the bitcoin crchitecture, which has just become a behemoth of GPUs wurring away solving arbitrary puzzles. Similarly with Gamestop. You are doing it as something that feels like free money. And enough people are doing it that some people are riding that wave, but it is tulips. Nothing more.

      This is just a bunch of kids who have learned a few buzzwords. Its like a much more positive version of a conspiracy theory, all half baked and thinking you know more than the big guys. Talk of averaging out is just a polite way of saying you have lost money.

      Sure I’m pissed off I didn’t buy a coin in 2013 when I was reading about it and thought that looked quite cool, but no way I’d be getting involved now. Gonna be a lot of coin Bros camping out on venice beach soon imo.

        benson Here’s where I read it - but as usual more info has come to light since and it’s not quite as bad as it seems. Turns out the loans are a daily mechanism that has been in use for a while.

          Pretty much how I view it too Benson - but I fucking love a gamble.

          Wally That just looks like clickbait conspiracy theory crap.

          I understand about 5% of the garbage in this whole thread. But I do understand the concept of a blockchain and I know that I know more than the average Joe. I also know that the only way to get rich from bitcoin is to sell it for dollars / pounds. So some people are gonna be left holding it when the music stops. Don’t be that person.

            benson Yeah, it’s a punt, as much as many shares are a punt. Long term, as far as I can see, stock market will give you more interest than any bank account. I discovered at one point my HSBC ISA was giving me something like 0.01% interest. I went in and asked about it and they said yes, that was correct, no they couldn’t do anything about it, and yes, I should bank somewhere else 😆

            None of the above is financial advice, I know less about finance than I do about sport.

              All of this is giving me a headache. Thank fuck I’ve got United Liverpool later to lose my money on in the good old fashioned sense

                So my Binance account was verified and now it isn’t again for some reason?

                ##edit Verified again ffs

                • LT42 replied to this.

                  Old-Dutch watching Liverpool lose to Utd is more depressing than all the money I could have made if I bought Bitcoin a few years ago

                  Old-Dutch Announced today that Binance are under investigation for money laundering. SELL SELL SELL

                    LT42

                    Lol. Am I really supposed to believe that a company registered in the Cayman Islands would have anything to do with money laundering?

                    • LT42 replied to this.

                      Old-Dutch Ha! The owner once went to Springfield to sell them a monorail

                        benson Clickbait conspiracy theory crap is all part of the fun Benson!

                        I love the cloak and dagger bat shit tin foil hattery tbh.

                        Amps I know less about finance than I do about sport.

                        It’s impossible to know less about nothing Amps!

                          Holding large amounts of crypto on exchanges brings convenience to trade but inherent risk.

                          If you are an investor like me, buy on an exchange then withdraw to a person wallet, software or hardware.

                          There are different types of wallets, some hold many different cryptos, others just one like Yoroi for ADA.

                          Why would you use Yoroi? You can stake your ADA to earn 5-6% APR per year to earn passive income, alongside the price action.

                          By moving crypto to a personal wallet you are taking control of it, and you are fully responsible. Just basic good housekeeping and you will be fine.

                          If you are dabbling with <£1000, then you could argue is it worth taking it off an exchange? Up to you.