Well, it seems I’m wrong there.
My understanding was that indoor venues would admit anyone over the age of 18 for concerts (‘shows’) as that is the age of adult responsibility, but in practical terms most places just made access over 21 as that was the age you could legally drink at (making monitoring and control of patrons easier). My error.
bosstrabs I think it depends on local laws. In St. Louis, you could get into a show at 18, even if they were serving alcohol, but you had to be sufficiently identified as underage, so they’d put these huge black or red X’s on the backs of your hands in permanent marker. That shit didn’t come off for days lol
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Kells77 they used to do something similar on Epstein’s island too, so I’m told
Summer of 93 was pretty special, rooms full to the brim with pill heads…
You’re not wrong, it’s just stupefyingly complicated. If you have a “stage” your eligible for different rules. Whoever decides what a stage is….god only knows. If you have seats available, different eligibility. Some licenses require you to have your revenue be 51% food rather than booze to allow <18’s. It really depends on what license you bought or are eligible or willing to pay for. If you’re buying a club, it’s just easier to stick with >21. It’s arcane and in place as a default tax on businesses.
And here in California you have the ABC. Alcohol Beverage Control. They’re police but they’re police who usually fucked up - beat somebody up on camera or something - so they get stuck with ABC duty. That means they’re absolute cunts of the highest order, bitter, and a complete pain. Best to steer clear of them as much as you can. Keeping it >21 is just easier. This one spot whose owners I know was messing about too much - people hanging out well past closing, smoking cigarettes outside after-hours. ABC mobbed in there specifically on a Friday night, cuffed everyone (which they can do) and arrested the manager so that he’d be stuck in the clink until the courts opened on Monday. Bell. Ends.
jonattonyeah yeah fair enough. helps if you live in a proper city too.
jonattonyeah I have American relatives and have spent time in both countries, yet people’s eyes pop out of their head when I tell them in some ways China is more free than the US.
Obviously, getting caught dealing drugs is a big problem to the dealer: he will be shot. Possession, you will get banged up or deported.
Drinking on the other hand is way, way nicer than in the States. If you’re with a family who has a 14 year old kid and they decide he can have a beer with dinner, he can have a beer with dinner. Absolutely nobody gives a fuck. I can buy a shitty lager like a Heineken in any coffee shop and even some branches of KFC. And, most importantly, if you and a bunch of friends are still in a bar and want to carry on drinking, and the owner wants to carry on serving, you can sit there till 7am and carry on regardless (so long as you don’t disturb the neighbours). And also: if you’re having a gathering and it’s 3am, a 7-eleven might not be open but the local 24:7 noodle shop will sell you 24 straight from the fridge to take up to your apartment. It’s extremely civilised compared to the weird puritanical US.
bosstrabs I think I’ve found it tricker to find places that don’t sell booze 24/7 in the US.
Along_the_Wire Try pulling out a lawn chair and drinking it outside though
Also, I have relatives from Indiana, who think every British member of the family has a ‘drink problem’. Even (especially) a woman having three glasses of wine.
Amps It’s kind of a grey area. I mean, most places won’t care, but technically any property outside your own home is illegal to smoke on. Doesn’t mean people abide by that. That said, because it’s legal here, “lounges” can be opened up for enjoying the puff, and you can smoke in one of those as much as you like.
My apartment community expressly forbids it, but people still do it. We just get an email reminder every so often about anyone caught being fined or possibly evicted, but that’s about it. No one ever really does anything.
So….you can, but technically, you can’t. lol.
Dan, you once had a thread my friend. My condolences.
