Your favourite year of clubbing

bosstrabs

You’re not wrong, it’s just stupefyingly complicated. If you have a “stage” your eligible for different rules. Whoever decides what a stage is….god only knows. If you have seats available, different eligibility. Some licenses require you to have your revenue be 51% food rather than booze to allow <18’s. It really depends on what license you bought or are eligible or willing to pay for. If you’re buying a club, it’s just easier to stick with >21. It’s arcane and in place as a default tax on businesses.

And here in California you have the ABC. Alcohol Beverage Control. They’re police but they’re police who usually fucked up - beat somebody up on camera or something - so they get stuck with ABC duty. That means they’re absolute cunts of the highest order, bitter, and a complete pain. Best to steer clear of them as much as you can. Keeping it >21 is just easier. This one spot whose owners I know was messing about too much - people hanging out well past closing, smoking cigarettes outside after-hours. ABC mobbed in there specifically on a Friday night, cuffed everyone (which they can do) and arrested the manager so that he’d be stuck in the clink until the courts opened on Monday. Bell. Ends.

jonattonyeah yeah fair enough. helps if you live in a proper city too.

bosstrabs
Been on a course at the library.

You don’t think it’s a bit ‘showy’ do you?

jonattonyeah I have American relatives and have spent time in both countries, yet people’s eyes pop out of their head when I tell them in some ways China is more free than the US.

Obviously, getting caught dealing drugs is a big problem to the dealer: he will be shot. Possession, you will get banged up or deported.

Drinking on the other hand is way, way nicer than in the States. If you’re with a family who has a 14 year old kid and they decide he can have a beer with dinner, he can have a beer with dinner. Absolutely nobody gives a fuck. I can buy a shitty lager like a Heineken in any coffee shop and even some branches of KFC. And, most importantly, if you and a bunch of friends are still in a bar and want to carry on drinking, and the owner wants to carry on serving, you can sit there till 7am and carry on regardless (so long as you don’t disturb the neighbours). And also: if you’re having a gathering and it’s 3am, a 7-eleven might not be open but the local 24:7 noodle shop will sell you 24 straight from the fridge to take up to your apartment. It’s extremely civilised compared to the weird puritanical US.

bosstrabs I think I’ve found it tricker to find places that don’t sell booze 24/7 in the US.

Along_the_Wire Try pulling out a lawn chair and drinking it outside though

Also, I have relatives from Indiana, who think every British member of the family has a ‘drink problem’. Even (especially) a woman having three glasses of wine.

bosstrabs Yeah they will pop you for open container in a heart beat

bosstrabs That tracks. Indiana is Pence country.

Kells77 Can you smoke weed openly in states where recreational is legal?

Dan, you once had a thread my friend. My condolences.

Kells77 My apartment community expressly forbids it

Is that weed, or cigarettes too?

LT42 Dan, you once had a thread my friend. My condolences.

We’ve done this thread a billion times, along with ‘Golden years of PROG’

Amps Both

Kells77 Gotcha.

Kells77 It’s kind of a grey area. I mean, most places won’t care, but technically any property outside your own home is illegal to smoke on. Doesn’t mean people abide by that. That said, because it’s legal here, “lounges” can be opened up for enjoying the puff, and you can smoke in one of those as much as you like.

that’s funny, we’re basically the opposite here. you can smoke outside except in playground, near schools, and not right outside the doors of a business. lounges where adults can gather? nope, can’t have that.

303abuser Yeah it’s weird lol. I think it’s mostly because it’s still illegal at the federal level, so any state or federally owned land would be disqualified, and I’m guessing so as not to overwhelm individual businesses or personal property owners, they just blanket made it illegal except in your own home. But saying that, I wasn’t living here when it was legalized, so maybe @jonattonyeah has more info on why it’s like this.

Amps If you wanna toke up when you’re here, just give me a heads up and I’ll drive you to basically any outdoor area where people don’t give a fuck

Kells77 that actually makes sense, i forget that your federal and state governments don’t need complimentary legislation.