jonattonyeah he’s a quarterback who should easliy be top 10, now whether that happens, i’m not sure. he’s in the 3rd year of gruden’s system, which is how long it normally takes qbs to figure it out (that’s where it clicked for gannon). our receivers should be better than last year, but they’re young, so that’s a crap shoot, but we have a great o-line, te, and rb. this will be his make or break it year.

and he doesn’t throw the check down as much as the perception indicates. i don’t have it in front of me, but someone on reddit put together a detailed breakdown of his passing stats and he throws as many accurate deep balls as anyone in the league; my complaint is that he could run more to extend plays and doesn’t. the offense last year was based around ab and we had to scrap half the playbook in late august, which is a real problem.

we’ll see how it goes, 10-6 would make me pretty happy, especially with our young defense.

      303abuser and he doesn’t throw the check down as much as the perception indicates

      Yeah I guess that’s just anecdotal for me. Watched quite a bit of the Raiders last year (even went to two games) and the number of times I remember him throwing it more than like 7 yards were few and far between.

      But top 10? Who you bumping?

      Mahomes
      Lamar
      Rodgers
      Wilson
      Deshaun
      Brees
      Prescott
      Ryan
      Stafford
      Wentz

      And I’m leaving off Brady (age, who knows), Rivers (same), Big Ben (again, same), Murray and Mayfield (who could improve), and Tannehill (let’s see more than a season). You’d take Carr over any of them? EDIT and forgot Joe Burrow who it sounds like could be good right out of the gate.

          jonattonyeah last year was rough as we had no receivers to get open; renfrew was a late round pick, a small slot receiver, and was probably carr’s 2nd best option, next to waller at te. ab going crazy really fucked the entire offense.

          i’m talking potential with carr, but if you look at last years stats, there’s an argument to be made he was very close to top 10 already. out of the guys you listed, mahomes, lamar rodgers, wilson and deshaun are all better. carr has the potential to be in that group. brees is on the edge of the cliff, dak is garbage, ryan looks done, stafford plays for the lions (he’s obviously good, but it’s the lions), wentz is average at best and i wouldn’t trade carr straight across for him.

          i maintain that brady has never been a great qb and i’m not going write an essay about it, but i could. take out the coach, the cheat, league bias, and the tuck game and he probably doesn’t start in the league. he’s going to be exposed this year and people will blame it on age. rivers is awful and has no arm left; ben might be ok if he’s in better shape, but he’s almost done; murray might be great; mayfield is way over-hyped considering he’s done nothing; tannehill had one good season and isn’t in carr’s league.

          there’s a lot of mediocrity at the qb position at the moment. old guys on the decline, young guys who haven’t proved it yet and carr is as good an option for the next year or two as we’re going to find. that said, bringing in competition is always a good thing and if he plays poorly this year with a better supporting staff, then cut him loose.

            Don has gone too far this time. am fully team Biden now!

            Along_the_Wire Bolton and Detroit Lions? Poor bastard.

            Still there is something honourable and character-building about supporting shit teams.

                bosstrabs it’s worse Dave, it’s Bolton and Washington. Washington are statistically the second worst team in the NFL over the last 25 years.

                  Nice work from the Kansas fans…

                  Yeah, that was a fine showing. Great part of the world.

                  On a more positive note, the Birds’ win on Sunday was spectacular.

                    i would think kc is the team to beat, but there are a lot of variables this year.

                    zackster

                    Where’s the fucking fun in that. At least give me a first QB injured or a first coach fired.

                      how long can the jets keep gase? shouldn’t have been hired in the first place. if the texans start 0-6, bob has to be gone. as in he’ll fire himself, right?

                        If we’re lucky, Grant and I will be booing the moment of silence sometime this season.

                        It was amusing to see that the Chiefs limited number of fans actually looked like a regular season crowd for the WFT last season.

                        Booing from Chiefs fans is next level disgusting.