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303abuser indeed. That’s the most effective bit, exercising whole fasting, but you need to work up to ghat bit.

    yeah it took me about 3 months of keto and IF to get to the point where i could run or do insanity at the same intensity i was used to. now i find it easier to exercise fasted.

    Think it’s well known IF doesn’t lead to weight loss… I tried it for about 3 months… my weight ended where it started. Exercising at the end of the fast was a massive buzz but that faded after a while…. So personally not too sure about fasting

      Jules72 yeah not sure it necessarily results in weight loss but I have gained more muscle and my waistline has dropped several inches so it works for me in that regard. It’s also helped with joint pain.

          Are you lot doing three four day fasts or just skipping one or two meals a day? I find that missing meals helps me not put weight on, but combine it with exercise and the keto and I’m getting the weight loss?

          I never eat breakfast and skip lunch occasionally too. I exercise a lot. Gym and basketball mainly. Walk everywhere I can etc

          Jules72 it’s less for weight loss, although it works for some, and more about energy (mitochondrial efficiency). it works better with high fat/low carb diets as well.

              303abuser Yeah… that’s the way it worked for me…. Don’t know why but over time the buzz/energy died

                  Jules72 my guess would be it’s your diet that causes the drop off. if your body is efficient at burning fat for energy, the fast is really easy. if you’re primarily sourcing energy from carbs, you’re going to hit a wall at some point.

                      303abuser it’s not that I hit a wall… I just found the buzz from swimming at the end of my fast wore off… it’s possible it could have been diet I have no idea - have you had a buzz from exercise at the end of a fast over a long period of time?

                          I play tennis 3 times a week (about 6 hours) prob the only thing that’s great for well being and keeping the timber off. I gave up narcs so my mind is much clearer nowadays…..still can’t stop drinking….I’ll never stop.

                          Never!!!!

                            Jules72 absolutely, it’s what i do to wake up. especially if i’ve had edibles the night before and i’m a bit foggy when i wake up, exercise gets my brain going.

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                                  303abuser I run 6 times a week plus some gym work most days so I know what you mean…. Exercise is seriously powerful for keeping you happy and stress free imo

                                      Jules72 yep, that’s my biggest problem right now. i feel like if i could just run everyday, my covid-related insomnia and anxiety wouldn’t be a huge issue.

                                        i asked in the covid thread, but i’ll check again here in case someone has suggestions and missed it.

                                        any suggestions for oximeter and sleep monitoring devices, preferably a wrist band of some sort and without a subscription fee? i keep reading reviews where one person says a device is amazing and the next review said it’s tracking sleep while they’re awake and it’s useless. i have no idea where to start.

                                        Jules72 Unfortunately, a lot of the things I’ve seen about IF is that you can pretty much eat how much you want when not fasting, when the main benefit should
                                        be controlling your calorie intake - if you’re fasting you’re skipping meals. That should mean minus calories IF you’re eating normally. If you’re in a calorie deficit, you’ll lose weight. If you eat to make up for the time you’re fasting, you won’t.

                                          303abuser The main reason people do it is for weight loss, though there are other benefits to it.

                                              BlainSA yeah for sure, it’s just not as effective (for weight loss) alone as it is paired with a low carb diet. it’s also usually easier for men than women. and that’s the root of the problem with diet, it’s a lot of n=1 because it’s very difficult to do proper controlled studies.

                                                  303abuser Anything with lower calories is effective. There was a guy who ate McDonald’s every day in a calorie deficit and got lean. Obviously not healthy. Carbs and fats don’t have anything to do with it bar some considerations with thermogenesis, but the overriding factor is calories in/out.